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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Fellow Americans, remember: if you eat out for your Thanksgiving meal, leave a fat tip for your wait staff who is working on Thanksgiving. Minimum 25%.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Naw man, 0% that shit.

I'm not playing this "oooh our food is cheap" bullshit game only to find out that is because the wait staff is underpaid. I came here to eat, not do math in my head while looking over the menu, INCREASE THE DAMN PRICES. I don't give a shit if it ends up costing MORE than tipping as long as the cost is fucking upfront.

I'm not your employer, I'm not paying you. And if your employer can't keep the restaurant afloat without underpaying you then that bitch should SINK. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SHIT.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then you should attempt to convince other people in order to make change instead of being a dick to waitstaff.

Sorry you're justifiably angry. Doesn't give you a free pass to be a piece of shit tho

[–] filoria@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way to institute change in an industry is by changing the supply/demand dynamics. If servers are underpaid, there'll be less people willing to be servers (supply goes down) which will drive prices up. Every time you tip, you are intentionally interfering with the fair market for service labour.

The solution to the problem is not to grin and bear the status quo, but to convince other people to not tip. At least, according to typical economic theory.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu -1 points 1 year ago

Tipping is inherently part of any fair market service, as are cultural customs. Your misunderstanding of the scope and intersectionality of economics isn't atypical tho.

There are a million solutions to any problem. Government was formed in order to make the unifying process of solving problems easier.

This problem hasn't been solved for a hundred years by 'market forces', maybe it's time for the government to change something, especially when restaurants are already a struggling business type.

Do you live in the US and actually understand the laws and cultural problems surrounding this issue? I understand you think economics is all econ 101 but it ain't lol.

[–] myplacedk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you seriously saying that the customer who pays full price and no more is "a piece of shit", and not management who chooses to underpay the staff?

I'm not having any of that. I'd rather just not eat out. Enjoy no tip AND one less customer.

I'll pay extra when I get extra. I paid over 150% yesterday. I've given big tips for free services. People sometimes give my cash tip back assuming I accidentally gave them 10x my intention. But not when it's a simple transaction when I get what I ordered and I'm paying the advertised price.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu -1 points 1 year ago

Either you don't understand anything about wage lawsin the US or you just aren't grounded in reality. Yes, lowering somebody's income because you don't like their boss's business decisions is a dick move. Indeed, the solution in this case is for you not to eat out in the US because you are apparently incapable of thinking about the consequences of your actions and who they really affect.

Are you really that stupid/shortsighted? Or is the anger at the system just clouding your judgement as I had suggested?

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