this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2024
1249 points (89.4% liked)

Memes

45734 readers
683 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 152 points 9 months ago (36 children)

European here.

This seems to mainly only be an issue in the US. Socialism = Communism = Enemy

If at all anything, the opposite seems to be the case here. We're looking at the US as a "this is how bad it will get if we let go" example

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Europe uses the word socialism differently. It’s a difference in how the words are used and the time they are used. If we consider socialism shared responsibility, we have it America in many ways but we are hesitant to expand it. That’s because of our fear of large government power.

If we me socialism as the workers owning the means of production. Well no country does that. Normally it’s the government owning everything and the workers being abused such as the Soviet Union or Cuba. That’s the large governments Americans dislike.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, socialism isn't taxing the rich, it is or at least have always led to brutal dictatorships because the real one is just communism with extra steps.

Social-democracy on the other hand is wonder for the people (see Sweden etc) in real life.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m a conservative and read a wonderful article on why conservatives should be leading the charge to a social democracy like Sweden. It really changed my views on why we should be skippering certain endeavors. Just neither party here has really embraced the basic concept.

An example was national health care allowed people to be more entrepreneurial since that is a large risk to not have insurance here.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 9 months ago

That's not being conservative my man.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not being conservative my man.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then you don’t understand conservatism.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (33 replies)