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[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago (22 children)

I love linux and been using it for decades, personally and professionally, but no, linux doesn't have "hot patching" the same way as that article describes it. At most it can live patch the kernel (and only few distros actually use that), but definitely not for the last 20 years, and definitely not running processes. However, it does usually restart background processes after an update without requiring a reboot, but in my experience, often times the system becomes unstable after several such updates and rebooting is effectively necessary (though not forced, and that's why I like it).

[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Yeah, the security in knowing that if you're way top busy right now, you don't have to install or even download any updates. And you don't have to worry your system will suddenly become crashy, glitchy, and unstable because it decided on its own to install some things and let you know you can reboot whenever.

It's so freaking annoying I have to use Windows at work. It takes liberty to do what it wants and then my workflow gets hosed.

I get that there is security, but if you force updates, I should have some kind of notice or "hey, we need to install mandatory updates. You can schedule in the next 24 hours when or you can get them over with"

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Current versions of windows literally let you set an update reboot window. So set up the times you use it, and then forget about it and let it install whenever it wants.

I honestly, and sincerely, do not understand all the hate Windows gets with current updates. The alternative at the moment is “hope the user remembers to update” which we have seen in action and which does not work.

Is it annoying when you don’t set things up properly? Sure! But that’s a failing on the users side.

I’ve been using Windows for decades, and the last time I had it unexpectedly reboot for an update was years ago. Because I’ve actually taken the 10 minutes to understand the system, and how to configure it to do what I want.

[–] ComplacentGoat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Win 11 Pro user here. It doesn't care what time you set for updates, it'll do them when it feels like anyway, or annoy the piss out of you with notifications.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Annoy you with notifications, yes. But if it’s restarting outside the window set, you’ve likely messed something up.

[–] ComplacentGoat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It might be that I don't leave the PC on all the time, I just hit sleep. But still, it shouldn't strong arm me into updating after a day or two of the download. Also hate having to RegEdit Edge off the thing after each one.

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