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This article was written in the sense of bashing gnome but yet some points seem to be valid. It explains the history of gtk 1 to 4 and the influence of gnome in gtk. I'm not saying gnome is bad here, instead I find this an interesting to read and I'm sharing it.

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (26 children)

"I’m not saying gnome is bad here"... but it lacks basic DE features, pushed useless crap like the activity view to people and slow animations that can't be completely turned off. To top things they try to reinvent the desktop experience every 2 or 3 years and end up making things worse (like when they decided to remove the desktop icons).

All for a "design and usability view" that doesn't amount to anything productive.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (14 children)

You left off the part about this being just your opinion and a lot of people like gnome.

Also, what kind of monster has desktop icons or files in 2023?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

You left off the part about this being just your opinion and a lot of people like gnome.

Do you know why there's KDE, XFCE and others? Because there's also a lot of people who dislike GNOME.

I don't dislike GNOME, I just know for a fact that most of what they do is trying to "reinvent the wheel" every three years.

[–] Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Umm well akshually 🤓👆: KDE doesn’t exist because people don’t like GNOME lol. GNOME was made because KDE uses QT, which used to be proprietary.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#History

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah I remember those early days. KDE had a 1.0 version out in the late 90s, which was perfectly usable as a standalone desktop environment, while at the same time Gnome was little more than a panel with a foot. Early Gnome was an unholy mess and remained so until the late 2.x versions in the mid 2000s. Like how many window managers and file managers did they go through? I believe they even had Enlightenment as the default window manager for a while, and then there was that weird Ximian desktop phase.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hold your horses, when I said "exist because" I was implying any particular time frame, I was just saying that if GNOME was really that superior everything else would've already died out without users / developers.

[–] Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Do you know why there’s KDE, XFCE and others? Because there’s also a lot of people who dislike GNOME.

If we are getting pedantic here, the above quote is clearly implying that alternatives exist and are actively developed because people dislike GNOME. Your statement does not take in to account the possibility that people just like the other alternatives, and may still like GNOME as well, or feel indifference towards it.

No one is claiming that GNOME has the superior desktop experience. Rather, GNOME has a more opinionated experience, that suits some people, and not others. For some people, it will be superior. For others, they will prefer KDE, XFCE etc.

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