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"A dream. It's perfect": Helium discovery in northern Minnesota may be biggest ever in North America::For a century, the U.S. Government-owned the largest helium reserve in the country, but the biggest exporters now are in Russia, Qatar and Tanzania. With this new discovery, Minnesota could be joining that list.

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[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 64 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (73 children)

The helium used for balloons is of low purity.

The shortages you hear about are of pure or near pure helium. The stuff going into the balloons at Tommy's birthday party isn't the same thing used to cool superconductors.

EDIT: And I used to think Reddit was full of ignorant jackasses ...

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Balloon helium is 3% helium. So every 33 balloons is one Balloon worth of pure helium. No helium starts off pure. It all gets concentrated/separated to get that way. "Balloon grade" helium can be concentrated just fine and considering that thousands of those balloons are filled every day, it is a lot of wasted helium.

*I had my percentage swapped, it seems. Balloon helium is 97% helium.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

balloon helium has some air in it, it's still 90%+ helium, probably

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh. I had that totally bass akward.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

depends on manufacturer, some state it's just 50%

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

One of the things I read said it has to be at least 93% to make balloons float.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 months ago

i've took time to actually look up various manufacturers' datasheets and it's: range 50-99%, 95%, 97%, range 95-100%, 99%, unspecified or just data for pure helium. at this point i'm pretty sure there's no such thing as "balloon gas manufacturer", everyone buys 4N+ cryogenic helium and balloon gas consists of odds and ends that come from flushing piping and empty bottles with better stuff

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

how much do you need to float, if it's helium then 1L lifts about 1g of mass, if it's 50% helium 50% air it lifts 0.5g per liter, then it depends on how heavy balloon is in relation to its volume

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The balloon + helium has to be lighter than the (couple of liters of) air it displaces.

He Density (at STP) 0.1786 g/L

The density of air at sea level is about 1.2 g/L

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