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I'm trying it, and it does looks nice.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 205 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (34 children)

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That's the state of computing in 2023: a browser disguised as a native app running 15 layers of Javascript is used as a friggin terminal. And nobody bats an eyelids, as if the utter insanity of it made any sense.

And the installer is 117M compressed. That's MEGABYTES... For a terminal!

The mind boggles...

[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (18 children)

I've been using Alacritty for the last 4 years, it's kinda the opposite of this nonsense. It's written in Rust, it's super light weight, highly optimised, and uses hardware acceleration to render the terminal. It's top of the chart for every terminal performance benchmark conceived.

However, that lightness and fastness comes at a cost. There are some basic features they just won't add because they're outside the scope of the project. Eg, tabs ("just use a tiling wm and do your own tabs in the wm") or a scrollbar ("just use a shell with a scrolling screen buffer like Tmux"), or different coloured backgrounds for each opened window ("why would anyone ever want to do that?").

My holy grail terminal would be something like Alacritty, written in Rust, blisteringly fast and light weight, but with tabs, scrollbar, bookmarks, etc.

I find myself falling back to using Konsole a lot these days, it's got all the features I want, is fast enough, and already installed on every system I use Plasma on.

[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Me too. I just ran time tree across my home directory a few times. Native console (ie C-A-F3) - 54 seconds, Konsole - eight seconds.

Waveterm is still installing (Arch AUR). The fan has a Gentooesque sound to it as a suspiciously complicated thing gets built. Oh God ... electon ... terminal shaking ... golang ... fans whining ... lap melting ..... the Old Ones are stirring.

The deps for this thing are many. " I watched Firefox builds on Gentoo glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate". OK, its now arrived and my laptop case is making ping noises as it cools.

It takes 10 seconds or so to start up. Look pretty. Accept license agreement (wtf). Now what? Hmm lets try typing in that box. OK. time tree. Go back to Lemmy to type the last two paras of this comment, get bored and uninstall waveterm.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You nailed it. Too bloated (300 MB, wtf), too slow, incompatible with zsh and fish, no tiling, too few keyboard shortcuts, and way, WAY too much wasted screen space.

Back to my sweet, sweet Konsole.

[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've been a KDE lover since 2.0 or so. I recall compiling it from a tarball for a laugh and it mostly working, which was quite a surprise. I think I had Slackware installed at the time on my desktop and KDE 1.x on it.

Anyway, 23 or so years later ... I'm looking forward to 6. Things have changed a bit 8)

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

♥️ KDE default apps ♥️

Dolphin, Konsole, Okular, Skanpage are so nice and I wouldn't be able to live without them. They feel so polished and solid, and somehow manage to have all the features I want without feeling cluttered

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Haha Dolphin and solid. Currently having some memory issues due to kde connect, yayy gdb backtraces for all!

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Try this rawhide Fedora Kinoite image! I am so close to just switching as it just works?

[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ooh, don't mind if I do. Luckily I happen to have a tame VMware cluster and rather a lot of laptops ("mwaaa, mwaaa, won't run Windows 11") to play with.

One of my employees has actually expressed an interest in Linux as a daily driver, which has only taken 23 years. I'm looking for my corp standard distro and I don't think Gentoo or Arch are going to do the job. I'm leaning towards Fedora at the moment but there's no rush, I only get one chance to bring the kids into the light, despite being the MD 8)

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

If it should be corporation stuff with central accounts and all I think GNOME is really good. Fedora GNOME could for sure be an option and I would recommend Silverblue from ublue.it in that case, as it has all the drivers and codecs

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