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I think this is fair. Part of the ethos of Fedora is being a forward-thinking distro that spearheads new solutions.
And Gnome's been pretty great on Wayland for a long time now anyway.
Besides, adding support back is as simple as adding a repo. If you want to enable X11 again, it's a trivial task.
E: apparently not even adding a repo, it's in the base repositories.
Wayland isn't all that new anymore anyway.
AFAIK they already defaulted to Wayland years ago, and a few years that I've used it on my work PC I had no problems.
Wayland is nearly 20 years old...
Tbf Wayland released 15 years ago but its an ecosystem rather than one tool. Wayland has evolved and other parts of the system have been built and refined. Plus XWayland compatibiliry layer is an essential component as so little software has been rewritten to work with wayland natively.
We're only really now at the point where most users can use wayland by default without errors. But I'm still experiencing software and tools that force me to go back to X11. It makes sense for Fedora to drop X11 as default if it's a more "cutting edge" distro but I don't think Debian for example will be doing so for years to come.
I agree with all that your said, but my point is that software age has little to do with when something should be made default. It's about being the right choice, like you said.
Basically all Qt4/5/6 software and all GTK 3/4 software works on Wayland natively, outside of a few edge cases... what else is there aside from games?
The Steam client...
It also means years for Fedora. They have a development cycle too. Things that they announce today might be considered for the next cycle and might actually make it in Fedora two cycles from current.
Time to replace it /s
If we keep it up, in 10 years a new project to replace Wayland will be started, and in another 20 it'll be replaced. Not bad, but not great. 3.6 Roentgen.
Fedora switched 6 or 7 years ago I think
Yeah like 2017 or something (Nvidia excluded!)