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[–] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Elmo says the goal is to make Grock "politically neutral". Politically neutral is code for "politics that are inoffensive to chuds".

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article asks what is the politically neutral answer to the question of whether a trans woman is a woman. I wonder why this is a political question at all. Send like a question for scientists - biologists and sociologists and such. Seems they have achieved something like a consensus on the matter. I don't see anything inherently political about that, except that folks of a certain political bent have made it political. It's not a matter of "what do we do in public policy about trans people" but "fascists refuse to accept trans people in society and have decided to lambast and punish them".

In case my position isn't obvious, trans people are people and trans rights are human rights. If there wasn't a group of people trying to make them into a second class group of citizens (or a group of "eradicated vermin") we wouldn't be having a political conversation about this at all.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let me preface by saying that I myself am not making a political statement, just a quick retort/correction:

"...Seems they [biologists] have achieved something like a consensus on the matter [trans women are women]. I don't see anything inherently political"

No, that's not a scientific question or statement, it's a sociological one, which makes it intrinsically political.

We, as a society, or a large enough group, can come up with a consensus belief that trans rights are human rights and that we can collectively treat other people by the gender role of their choice.

But biologically speaking, being trans doesn't change one's chromosomes. Which is why I think it's misguided to say that trans issues are actually questions that hard science should answer, they aren't.

Which, ironically, is why Elon's moronic AI gambit is failing (by his metrics), because the online culture he used to as a dataset to train it, has collectively agreed that trans women are women, amongst other social and political opinions that his sycophants can't stand.

He probably should have trained it with TruthSocial's cesspool instead.

I can't wait to see Tay AI 2.0 level reincarnation after they "retrain it". It's going be to hilarious.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article asks what is the politically neutral answer to the question of whether a trans woman is a woman. I wonder why this is a political question at all.

Even if the statement "trans women are women" was uncontroversial and mainstream, it'd still be political. "Cis women are women" is political.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How is “cis women are women” political when literally no one is arguing against that point?

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