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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

I don't understand, out of all of the things that we teach students in schools, out of all of the things that people don't demand justification for learning, why Maths gets all of the flak. It's the foundation on which the universe exists. If people don't understand that they're not just learning trigonometry "just cuz" then they probably don't have much of a career in STEM planned for themselves. Which is fine, but western society's blindspot for STEM is 100% attributed to the intentional undermining and dumbing-down of the education system.

We regularly don't give students justification for why they learn grammar, biology, chemistry, physics, visual art, and music. But as soon as you show someone a standard polynomial, they lose their fucking minds.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I dunno, I see people complain about "why do we have to read books that are hundreds of years old?" too pretty frequently. Some people are just hostile to education. Honestly, cost aside, I'm a little disappointed in the number of people who complain about college as if the only thing you get out of college is a piece of paper.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

It's a valid complaint. Why is Shakespeare more legitimate than, say, Stephen King for high school classes? Reading is reading, and asking students to read boring books because "they are classics" is the best way to discourage them.

In high school, I had to read Phèdre, a story told in verses about some incestuous rednecks from Greek mythology or whatever, written in the 1600's. It was painful.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 7 points 11 months ago

I think there's something to be said about shared cultural experiences, and so reading some older books is probably a good thing.

To clarify what I mean though: that means that we should be reading stuff that was written/popular when our grandparents were our age. Going back 200+ years should be saved for a history class cause that's the real value in reading that material. In my opinion, Great Gatsby should be about the oldest book kids need to be reading for a literature class these days, and even that's pushing it.

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