Its important to keep in mind that Lemmy is provided for free and as-is. It also hasnt reached version 1.0 yet so obviously there are still many features missing. Yet there are tens of thousands of users and hundreds of admins who are happy with Lemmy in its current state.

To continue with the analogy, if the Lemmy playground is not safe enough for your particular neighborhood, you have a few different choices:

Wait for someone else to solve the problem (but this may take very long or forever)
Solve the problem yourself, or pay someone to do it
Use a different type of playground instead

Beehaw in particular has $5,470 in donation balance. This would cover my income for around 2.5 months. They could easily take this money to hire a developer and implement the features they require. Yet they believe that they are somehow entitled to dictating what I or Dessalines should work on.

Edit: This doesn't mean that I don't care about implementing better mod tools, in fact if you look at the pull requests there have been numerous improvements in this area. But resources are limited and mod tools cannot be the only priority as some people seem to expect.

Edit 2: To be very clear, this comment is only aimed at Beehaw admins and a few other individuals who are extremely entitled and think they can dictate me to work on features they specifically want. The vast majority of users and admins on Lemmy are not like that, so of course my comment is not aimed at them and Im working hard every day to make Lemmy better for the majority. But that means I cant get distracted and waste time on features that only a tiny minority wants.

[–] THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today -1 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Really sad to see you go this way my man i had high hopes but oh well it is your work and you have the right to destroy it.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

I think something is being lost in communication here. Nothing is being destroyed.

I keep seeing this disconnect, I think it needs to be emphasized: Lemmy maintainers have been focusing (and continue to focus on) safety and moderation improvements. Anybody can verify this by looking through PRs/commits/RFCs on GitHub.

I think I understand where the disconnect is coming from - there have been a few responses in some of these threads by Lemmy devs where they tell people to be less rude and demanding, and to contribute if they desperately want some feature. Perhaps as an observer, this sounds like "we do not care about mod tools" or whatever, but reality is just different.

Perhaps it would be useful to do a more in-depth post about all the stuff Lemmy devs have worked on and are currently working on? I mean things like:

When purging a federated user, federate local community removals. (#4505)
Mods and admins can comment in locked posts (fixes #4116) (#4488)
When site banning a federated user, also remove their content from our local communities. (#4464)
Store password reset token after email successfully sent (fixes #3757) (#4489)
Require verified email to reset password (#4482)
Correctly synchronize collection of community featured posts (fixes #3867) (#4475)
Ignore expired bans in CommentReportView::read, just like in CommentReportQuery::list (#4457)
Auto resolve reports on removing a comment or post. Fixes #4390 (#4402)
... the list goes on and on and on, these are just a very small and incomplete list of examples of already merged PRs which took me 30 seconds to quickly find on GitHub

I feel like there is this meme developing in Lemmy that maintainers are putting out a message of not caring about mod tools, which anybody with context will know is completely false, but I think most Lemmy users (and even many admins!) just don't have this context.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree. A lot of the friction here is due to miscommunication. That said, if what I said kept being misunderstood, then I would make a priority to improve my communication style.

This shit is hard. If one has ASD like I do, it's even harder. Personally try to be very exact on what I say, even when speaking casually, and pepper smilies and caveats to try to ensure people don't take what I say the wrong way. And even then I've stepped in it a number of times.

My perspective is that lemmy found perhaps a very unexpected success, and caught the devs flatfooted and this is how the stress of that success is manifesting. In short, they walk the walk, but can't talk the talk.

There's a saying where I'm from, that the Queen doesn't just need to be pure, she needs to appear pure. And those two things are completely different skillsets.

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