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They’re about 20 years too late to be doing that. Current clever-person play is to learn a solid manual trade, build good relationships with people in your community, make sure you’re directly connected to where the food comes from, travel if you can and make sure you’re familiar and have connections in a few different places in the world.
People who are today getting into CS and going into debt to get a Bachelor’s in it are in for a rude rude awakening if they observed that that would be the ticket to a comfortable life.
It still kind of is though? The market is ass right now but my TC last year as a new grad was $200k and I only started in April. If you grind interview prep you're bound to get something eventually, and new grad software engineers currently pay near to low six figures.
It's not easy but CS bachelor's degree to software engineer is a solid career prospect long term even if the market sucks right now. Not to mention trades destroy your body in ways that cause long term issues, and pay way less over the course of a career unless you're doing something exceedingly risky.
UPS drivers make $170k. I'm not saying you're unsafe in the short term, necessarily, or that driving for UPS is safe in the long run, either... but I think they are far less likely (or likely to be later on down the road) to get replaced by technological developments, as compared with pure software dev. And, they don't have loan debt to pay down, and they have a union to protect them against the employer suddenly realizing in the medium-term a cheaper way to get it done and picking up the axe with no hesitation.
Long term, I'm assuming that there will be very major changes to the world. There are lots of memoirs you can read of people in a sudden upheaval situation realizing that all the money in the world couldn't save them. That was part of the thinking behind my comment that I didn't really spell out in detail.
Why long term? Short term yes, but you seem to be assuming that climate change and AI developments don't produce any major changes to the landscape.
Depends on what. Construction, yes, absolutely. I was thinking in terms of more like electrical or plumbing, crane operation, things like that. But yeah I'll agree with that for some things, definitely.
Holy shit, I can make that kind of money for driving like a maniac while wearing brown daisy dukes? I picked wrong...
Edit, I also think any task that can be automated with sensors, robotics, and programming is a risk.
Probably will be lots of robot repair and automation engineers though...
Yeah. Like a lot of technological shifts, it's not so much that the AI will put everyone who does mental work out of a job. It's more that that people who can interface well with the AI and operate it, will put out of a job the people who are competing directly with the AI itself.
That's only in the medium term though. In the long term the shifts from AI and climate change and God knows what else are so seismic that all bets are off IMO.