I think it's wonderful that you're so passionate about the fediverse. However your main argument seems to be that Meta enriches the Fediverse with money.

But you're not addressing the fact that profit driven endeavours result in things like the fact that they broke the law to snoop on snapchat users.

Where does the push for profit stop? Why do you feel that the fediverse needs money and what alternatives have you looked at beside Silicon Valley?

There are things like communick and I'm a proponent of cooperatives, whereby you get XX people to contribute the amount to split the costs of a server, management, a domain and software development donations and as more people join, the cost is spread out more.

What is it exactly that Meta offer? Where do you think they'll invest that cooperatives can't?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My biggest problem is how people refuse to integrate monetization into federated platforms. Some standard transactional system of sorts that could allow small platforms to create revenue streams for creators.

Not having that means Threads will be the only platform that makes such functions available, and you know they'll have a quota based incentive system much like YouTube to get all the creators their side of things.

This is bad for musicians, film makers, animators, etc. And if you're idea is that "you can just link to someone's Patreon account or their PayPal wallet", then we're right back to the same problem again.

Believing that in 2024 you can just ignore monetization within platforms means you're just leaving a hole in the fence for which nefarious actors can sneak in. It's better if we standardise and normalise ethical payment models and have them readily available across platforms.

We need a federated, decentralised SWIFT for the fediverse - believe it or not.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 5 points 8 months ago

People aren't adverse to monetizing aspects of the Fediverse, but what they don't want is simply adding a Fediverse sticker to existing trains of thought and ideas and calling it done.

The confusion a lot of people have is that the Fediverse is a phoenix that grew from the ashes of Twitter and the reality is that it existed long before.

People are suggesting that the people that built the communities they've joined should compromise because new blood is here and the Fediverse has said, sure, let's see your ideas and we can discuss it and people are like, well we want the old stuff with a Fediverse sticker, compromise!

The Fediverse wouldn't be as big without any of the newer people and I include myself in that, even though my original Mastodon predates Elon even flirting with Twitter, but it was fine. It was fun. It had a good community and that's why it was a viable option. The Fediverse doesn't need us. If we have discussions with humility, perhaps we can find solutions together.

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