This meme does not state no one needs to work. It states you don't need to earn your place among the living. You've already done so by virtue of being born. I think that is a noble goal for a society to uphold. Higher ideals are, of course, what separates us from the realm of animal urges. Once you begin to mix laws of the jungle back into society the point of our isolation from it is subverted. If we truly are the greatest Earth has to offer, surely we can figure so.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (7 children)

In no capitalist society that I know of will you be executed for not working - you have a right to life

What you don't have the right to is someone else to provide for you if you don't give anything back

That said I'm fairly sure with the amount of automation we have everyone should need to put in a whole lot less work than they do to keep society afloat

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What are you saying? That you wouldn't give anything back if not for the threat of homelessness and starvation? I don't need a threat to make the world a better place.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure I'd give something back but I'm also sure most of it wouldn't be of much use to anyone else, I'd be working on stuff like mods, niche tools for myself that probably 3 people on earth would find useful, and stupid ideas for fun like some streamers get to

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Listen, I don't think it'd be as disasterous for anyone with a passion. The people who would be fucked and have to adjust are the ones whose only goal is get money. Imo thats not a healthy way to be a human as it usually has a price tag of everyone else. Theres constant suffering every day and most of it is in the name of profits. Shit, my boss acts like it'd murder him to get me 10k more a year so I am not below the american median when in reality the company wouldn't even count that as pocket change, I see the revenue and expenses every day. The sociopaths control and benefit from this system and you defend it. Its like a strange stockholm syndrome.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Passions don't necessary line up with something that's beneficial to society is my point.

Absolutely the distribution of wealth at the moment is far from fair and I wish we could fix that, but I still think short of everything being automated even in a utopia where we do everything perfectly as a society people still have to do jobs they don't want to because there are jobs noone wants to do that need doing

I highly doubt anyone has a passion for working in the service industry, cleaning up the messes kids make at school or collecting people's rubbish but they're jobs that need doing and people do them because they're compensated for them

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