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  • Big Tech has implemented passkeys in a way that locks users into their platforms rather than providing universal security
  • Passkeys were developed to replace passwords for better account security, but their rollout by Apple and Google has limited their potential
  • Proton Pass offers passkeys that are universal, easy to use, and available to everyone for improved online security and privacy.
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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (12 children)

The way Apple or companies like Paypal implement two-factor authentication, let alone passkeys, drive me up the wall. This all could have been so much better.

I’m not even going to mention all the platforms that rolled out passkey creation support, but not passkey login support, for whichever damn reason

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Yeah, Apple 2FA is infuriating, especially since you can do all factors from the same device. Kind of defeats the purpose of traditional 2FA/MFA. Also, companies that decide you 2FA experience has to use their app, instead of a standards-compliant TOTP app of your choosing....ugh.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

If you think forcing everyone to carry an object other than their phone around so they can use 2factor on their phone is a good idea... Or if you said I need to go to my laptop when I’m logging in on my phone and vise versa… that’s nonsense too. Sure maybe some companies require this. But that’s different.

Authy on my phone is just as “dumb” as Keychain on my phone.

How else are you imagining this should work? Keep in mind normal people need to do it too.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I bring my yubikey with me, it's in my keychain. This is not only more secure against phone theft/access, which probably is not very relevant for most people, but it spreads the risk of locking yourself out.

For example, I was in Iceland with my girlfriend and she "lost" her phone. We wanted to locate it, so I logged to Google for her, which asked 2FA. If she used her phone, she would have been toast. Instead I made her use yubikeys too, and she just logged in and found her phone.

Obviously you can lose your hardware tokens too, but it's generally less likely (you take out your home keys way less than your phone, for example). You can also backup your TOTP on multiple devices etc., of course.

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