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I'm curious how software can be created and evolve over time. I'm afraid that at some point, we'll realize there are issues with the software we're using that can only be remedied by massive changes or a complete rewrite.

Are there any instances of this happening? Where something is designed with a flaw that doesn't get realized until much later, necessitating scrapping the whole thing and starting from scratch?

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[–] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (34 children)

Seriously, I'm not a heavy software developer that partakes in projects of that scale nor complexity but just seeing it from the outside makes me hurt. All these protocols left-right and center, surely just an actual program would be cleaner? Like they just rewrite X from scratch implementing and supporting all modern technology and using a monolithic model.

Then small projects could still survive since making a compositor would almost be trivial, no need to rewrite Wayland from scratch cause we got "Waykit" (fictional name I just thought of for this X rewrite), just import that into your project and use the API.

[–] sepulcher@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (29 children)

It's what happens when you put theory over practicality.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz -3 points 7 months ago (28 children)

What we wanted: Wayland.

What we needed: X12, X13...

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No body wanted Wayland except the mad scientists and anti nvidia bigots that made it.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine calling developers who have a cold relationship with Nvidia due to Nvidia doing the bare minimum for Linux development "bigots" lol

I think you must be a fanboy. "Bigotry" towards a multi trillion dollar company lmao. What an absurd thought.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm no fanboy of any video card. I just have ton of laptops with NVidia in them, and the bigots making Wayland never gave a darn about our plight... and then they started pushing distros to switch before they did anything to fix it. Their callous attitude toward the largest desktop linux userbase is insulting and pushing the distros before they fix the problem should be criminal. Every one of them should be put away for trying to ruin Linux by abandoning it's largest desktop user base. We dislike them, dislike them so much.

Now, will it keep us from using that crap when it finally works? No. We don't have much choice. They've seen to that. x11 will go the way of the dodo. But can we dislike them forever for dragging us through the mud until they were finally forced to fix the darn thing? Yeah. Wish them nothing but the worst.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Nobody is being "bigoted" to Nvidia lmao, get some perspective.

And if you're this butthurt Bout Wayland, don't use it. I've been using it for years without issue, because I didn't choose a hardware manufacturer that's actively hostile to Linux. Nvidia is too bigoted for me, unfortunately.

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