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What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"? (feddit.uk)
submitted 11 months ago by case_when@feddit.uk to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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I've been using Linux Mint since forever. I've never felt a reason to change. But I'm interested in what persuaded others to move.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 81 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (27 children)

Every couple of years I think to myself "You know, I can't actually remember why I don't like Ubuntu. It must have just been some weird one-off thing that soured me on it last time. Besides, I've got N more years of Linux experience under my belt, so I know how to avoid sticky situations with apt, and they've had N more years to make their OS more user friendly! I pride myself on not holding grudges, and if this distro still gets recommended to newbies, how bad can it possibly be, especially for someone with my level of expertise?"

And then I download Ubuntu.

And then I remember.

[–] reflex@kbin.social 53 points 11 months ago (12 children)

And then I remember.

Can you share with the rest of the class?

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 55 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Admittedly, it's been a few years and I'm coming due, but let's see what I can remember...

  • apt will brick itself if it gets interrupted mid transaction with no clear recourse apart from a total reinstall, so try not to get greedy and Ctrl+C if it looks like dpkg is hung
  • trying to install any software that isn't already packaged explicitly for Ubuntu is a nightmare because there is no equivalent of the AUR for people to push build steps to and you're quite often left guessing what dependencies you need to install to get something to compile
  • snapcraft, need I say more? Firefox takes several minutes to start up, we don't talk about disk usage, installing a package with apt will sometimes install the snap version anyway requiring a Windows-registry-edit-esque hack to disable, and the last time I checked in, the loop devices it creates didn't even get hidden in the file manager.
  • I've also definitely encountered my fair share of bugs and broken packages which are always fun to fix
[–] Exec@pawb.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  • apt will brick itself if it gets interrupted mid transaction with no clear recourse apart from a total reinstall, so try not to get greedy and Ctrl+C if it looks like dpkg is hung

You can dpkg -r the package you tried to install then apt won't complain about missing dependency packages for your app as it won't be marked for to be installed

trying to install any software that isn't already packaged explicitly for Ubuntu is a nightmare because there is no equivalent of the AUR for people to push build steps to and you're quite often left guessing what dependencies you need to install to get something to compile

There isn't a big global community repo per say like aur but anyone can host their own repos with PPAs, you just need to add them to your lists

Most apt quirks are there with Debian too, not just an Ubuntu thing. The rest of the things you mentioned are fair.

[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Well there is this one thing where ppas break updates.

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