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Ubuntu Snap Hate (lemmy.world)
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I've gathered that a lot of people in the nix space seem to dislike snaps but otherwise like Flatpaks, what seems to be the difference here?

Are Snaps just a lot slower than flatpaks or something? They're both a bit bloaty as far as I know but makes Canonicals attempt worse?

Personally I think for home users or niche there should be a snap less variant of this distribution with all the bells and whistles.

Sure it might be pointless, but you could argue that for dozens of other distros that take Debian, Fedora or Arch stuff and make it as their own variant, I.e MX Linux or Manjaro.

What are your thoughts?

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[–] refalo@programming.dev 75 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

The server is proprietary and last I checked you can't even turn off auto-updating or verify the binaries they push to you.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-mint-dumps-ubuntu-snap/

In the Ubuntu 20.04 package base, the Chromium package is indeed empty and acting, without your consent, as a backdoor by connecting your computer to the Ubuntu Store. Applications in this store cannot be patched, or pinned. You can't audit them, hold them, modify them, or even point Snap to a different store. You've as much empowerment with this as if you were using proprietary software, i.e. none. This is in effect similar to a commercial proprietary solution, but with two major differences: It runs as root, and it installs itself without asking you.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is why I don't love snaps, proprietary backend. I think snaps actually work great for the most part, and flatpaks don't support cli apps, only GUI.

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why people keep saying that flatpaks don't support cli apps. They do. I know it's awkward to type out flatpak run io.github.zyedidia.micro or whatever every time you want to use a text editor, but aliases fix that pretty neatly, and that example wasn't hypothetical.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You don't even need to create aliases yourself. Flatpak creates wrapper scripts for every app that you install. Just symlink them into your PATH.

ln -s /var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/org.example.CliTool ~/.local/bin/cli-tool

or if you are using a user remote

ln -s ~/.local/share/flatpak/exports/bin/org.example.CliTool ~/.local/bin/cli-tool

(Note: some lemmy clients render the the tilde in code blocks incorrectly)

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

This is news to me! I'm honestly just paroting others with the no CLI support, I never did the homework. Shame on me I guess!

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago

What? I've used neovim flatpak without issues in Fedora and openSuse...

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