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[–] Olap@lemmy.world 114 points 7 months ago (43 children)

When does systemd stop? Linux without it is increasingly looking unlikely in the future. Are we not worried about it being a single point of failure and attack vector?

This isn't a moan about the unix philosophy btw, but a genuine curiosity about how we split responsibilities in todays linux environment.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Gentoo, Slackware and Devuan can be used without svchost for linux.

They'll only stop when they rebrand it to systemd OS.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Debian works fine without systemd too, there's a page on the wiki on how to install without it, or remove it after the fact.

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Easy with sudo apt remove --purge --allow-remove-essential --auto-remove systemd:

The predictable failure of things towards the end of apt running the above command. Still in a gnome terminal, but the apt script couldn't even complete due to a bunch of stuff now missing

Uh-oh.. a black vt on reboot, complaining that no inittab found..

:-D Time to go outside.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lot of debs add services to systemd, do those just skip that part?

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

They seem to. Debian explicitly supports multiple init systems, sysvinit being the primary alternative, so packages have to handle systemd-init not being there.

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