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[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 73 points 7 months ago (20 children)

It's a construction job. Practically everyone is going to be deep red republican. Guy just needs to say his girlfriend had a miscarriage and they were taking it hard and he'd save grace.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

opinion warning

Look I'm not from america, but if someone told me I'm probably voting X because I work Y I'd get pissed no matter if they're right or wrong.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey i'm not here to make friends or anything. I don't even care of people get angry. The contractors vote for the orange man here even in deep blue Massachusetts.

If you took only the people physically on any major construction site and they were the voting majority, it would be plastered red across the board with an ultra minority of democrat votes (20% or less.)

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So let's assume it's true, but isn't a whole industry voting one way a bit odd? Doesn't it speak of broader issues?

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

There's a lot of issues and there's a lot of nuanced factors. I can't even begin to cover all the ones I know about, let alone know them all.

High up in politics there is no meeting in the middle, the other party is the enemy. You're in the club or outside of the club, that's it. That same attitude trickles down to workplaces and social circles. If you want to work with the other team you get put on the sidelines, minimized, have your funding cut, miss out on a promotion. It's essentially join or die, and often times you see people throwing death threats at the other side online where they presume they are anonymous.

Then there's Education. It's mostly dogmatic. It's not about teaching life skills, it's about teaching people to be good workers and to follow along with the status quo with a sprinkling of whatever political ideology runs the state/town. That doesn't help, but changing any of it is highly political.

Universities tend to be liberal, and the highly conservative jobs tend to not require those degrees. You can be a master electrician right out of vocational school, why would you go to a university? If you do have a four year degree, why would you want to work in construction where the environment is so much rougher?

Plus there's the gender gap...

Too much nuance for a comment on social media. This is already way too long. I see no way to fix the system either given that changes need sponsorship by the ones who benefit from the system today.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

Oh there are so many issues and so many giant red flags pointing out those issues. But I dunno how the hell to fix it, esp coming from a deep red state...

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago

Americans treat politics more like football rather then then evaluate politics to see what best for themselves, their community and their country. It's like relegion and is more an indoctrination thing. They're not alone in that of courses, its just seems more pronounced and tribal there.

I am not American and don't live there but used to years ago.

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