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KDE's Nate Graham On X11 Being A Bad Platform & The Wayland Future (www.phoronix.com)

submitted 11 months ago by pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of "Wayland breaking everything" isn't really accurate.

"In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!"

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't see why we need convincing that Wayland's better. Most Linux users either use it currently or are possibly looking to switch in the future. The other people who are not are likely going to use X for eternity

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think real X11 fanboys are almost non-existent. Wayland wouldn't be so rejected if it wasn't that it still has a lot of compatibility issues, I think most people just want everything to work and don't care whose fault it is.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. Nobody likes X, let alone love it. Most people's relation to X is pragmatic, it's "it works and does everything I need".

If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn't yet work for what they need it to do.

Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it's ready. There's no convincing needed.

[–] mnglw@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

exactly this, I'll use it when it works with no questions asked. I.e: when it becomes invisible to me as an enduser

as for now, it isn't, far from it

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