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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 85 points 6 months ago (12 children)

This is happening worldwide. It has very little to do with urban planning and more with lax homeownership restrictions that allows the wealthy and corporations to scoop up housing supply for profit.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

"The wealthy and corporations" have choices of how to invest their money. If housing supply is sufficiently elastic to meet demand, they'll find somewhere else other than housing to put their money. Ain't nobody trying to corner the Chinese real estate market in 2024, for instance (*).

There are a few places where land shortages genuinely constrain housing supply, like Singapore and Hong Kong. But the US has tons of land; things are simply not well optimized. That, plus high interest rates due to fiscal/monetary mismanagement.

(*) Not saying the Chinese real estate market is worth emulating.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Soil consumption is one of the many environmental problems we face. Polluting and consuming more soil to condition the market is nonsense IMHO. Governments should simply regulate more so that people vacationing will go to hotels and houses will be available for residents. This also addresses the issue of locals being pushed further and further away in the cities they live, which creating more houses doesn't solve (it will just be the next round of isolated dormitory periferic areas, which have already tons of problems).

Short term rentals for houses was a very good and lucrative idea, but it's harmful to basically everyone but the landlords who rent out houses there. As such, we should simply strongly regulate it to discourage it as much as possible, if not banning it directly.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Governments should simply regulate more so that people vacationing will go to hotels and houses will be available for residents

Berlin did exactly that: You can rent out your apartment for IIRC 30 days a year, or while you're also living there, if you want to rent out more you need a hotel license and tough luck getting one while there's a housing shortage, least of all for a flat in a residential area.

But OTOH that's all only taking the edge off there's been decades of under-investment in social housing in Germany overall, and the little social housing that got built got built via attaching conditions to building permits for private investors, those apartments lose their social housing status after 20 or such years.

And it's not like there aren't companies who want to build, and build plenty -- but they don't because they can't recoup costs, not in this market where every rich fuck who can afford rent already is living somewhere else: Building costs are too high. Some of that is building standards, permitting, etc, but the bulk of it is financing costs, that is, interest on loans for new construction is way too high. Getting at land is not always easy but there's plenty of mechanisms such as municipalities having right of first refusal for any land sale (if they want to, that's another topic). There's really only one way out of this and it's state coffers because the capital market certainly isn't going to get less greedy.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Agree. Social housing has been one of the first areas to suffer from cuts everywhere. It is a problem on its own, which short term rental makes worse.

The problem is that building is basically an irreversible use of land. It's only recently that we started seeing land as a commodity (few centuries) and with the current state of affairs, it's insane to leave it as such. Soil is too precious and too scarce to let market inefficiencies waste it. We should really explore all options before we decide to simply build more, especially in Europe where the population growth is basically null.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The build more thing is in urban areas to accommodate urbanisation. Coming to think of it the 49 Euro ticket might actually reverse some of that because there's tons of smaller towns, sometimes villages, with proper train connection to the next large city. Low prices drive usage which prompts higher train frequencies which, infrastructure permitting, takes even more pressure off the metropolitan housing market.

That said urbanisation isn't in itself a bad thing -- it makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons to not have a gazillion tiny villages, it'd just be another form of sprawl. Here in SH, if every train station we do have had a small urban core around it surrounded by village structures in cargo bike distance and then long stretches of fields and nothing, that'd actually be quite nice. The state was very good at doing that in the Hamburg metropolitan area, focussing development on a couple of axes radiating out from Hamburg but it should become more of a general pattern.

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