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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

How would Arch have implemented the default installer within Arch itself?

I would argue that EOS in fact did work within Arch as they use the entire Arch repo system ( including even the kernel ). EOS adds a few utilities some of which are not even unique to EOS ( like yay and paru ).

EOS has become more opinionated about the install such as using Dracut and systemd-boot but even those come from the Arch repos.

The other thing that EOS brings is the much friendlier community.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Sorry I don't understand your first question.

What I mean is that anyone (in fact there were projects that did this) could make an image with an installer GUI for Arch Linux that installed Arch Linux and some opinionated software like Endeavour does. But at the end you just got an easy Arch installation. What bothers me is that instead of pushing for Arch Linux's brand, Endeavour created their own, virtually wrapping Arch Linux as theirs, and I don't believe it is enough work to consider it a different distro, because it is LITERALLY ARCH with a couple of extra packages (that could be on the main repos or the AUR).

And I am saying all this as an Endeavour user myself!

[–] Andy@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FWIW I've read an Arch dev complain that folks using any 3rd party installer are not in fact "running Arch" and should not claim to be doing so.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

I would say that does apply in the case of Endeavour OS but shouldn't for a custom install with 100 % Arch+AUR packages.

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