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[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

In this case there are several crimes, but in the other one mentioned about a korean there is nothing, only possession of generated content arguing that there is high realism (someone could say the same even of a sketch). To imprison for acts that have neither victims nor any harm either directly or indirectly, is more aberrant than possessing that.

PS: I'm just talking about legality and rights, I know it's controversial and I'm sure someone has something to argue against it, but if you're going to accuse me of being a pedo just get lost you moron.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Careful, any time I point this out, the fascists come out of the woodwork to call me a pedo.

Criminalizing the creation, possession, or viewing of entirely artificial artwork is beyond unethical; it's extraordinarily evil. I don't care if you find someone's artwork gross, troubling, distasteful, immoral, etc... that's art. Victimizing real people is not "art" or "speech" or "expression"... so as long as that isn't happening there is no ethical grounds whatsoever for restricting a persons exercise of expression, especially in private.

Social consequences for creating, sharing, viewing certain artwork is one thing... but the government or law punishing someone for it is a different thing entirely.

That said, this specific case is different in that the doctor DID in fact victimize real children by using secret photos and recordings of them to create the images. That crosses way across the line that I laid out above. Additionally, he possessed actual CSAM (which he may have made himself), and so is absolutely guilty of sexually victimizing real children. That guy deserves everything he gets in prison.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Criminalizing the creation, possession, or viewing of entirely artificial artwork is beyond unethical; it's extraordinarily evil.

No it isn't.

I don't care if you find someone's artwork gross, troubling, distasteful, immoral, etc... that's art.

No, it's child porn.

Careful, any time I point this out, the fascists come out of the woodwork to call me a pedo.

Can't imagine why.

You realise the AI is being trained on pictures of real children, right?

So it's wrong for it to be based on one child, but according to you the AI "art" (as you keep calling it) is okay as long as there are thousands of victims instead?

So you're cool with images of 6 year olds being penetrated by a 40 year old as long as "tHe Ai DrEw iT sO nObOdY gOt HuRt"? I guess you could just set it as your desktop and phone wallpaper and everything would be fine. Let me know how that works out for you.

That's some stunning mental gymnastics right there.

[–] Elivey@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I know you know this, but you are not crazy. I'm astonished you are being down voted so hard. The pedo apology is so strong it's making me not want to use Lemmy. This thread is worse than reddit.

Terrifying.

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