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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago (36 children)

I would definitely try it, but all the phones I've been looking at recently don't have any support whatsoever for any of those types of custom OS's. No Lineage, no anything. All because they're not flagship models and are more budget friendly phones (and have what I'm looking for: headphone jack and SD slot).

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (35 children)

Can someone help me understand why headphone jacks and SD card slots are so important to people? All new phones have audio connections built into the USB-C port, and have enough onboard storage not to require any amount of expansion.

Is the lack of these features really a dealbreaker? I have a Pixel, with custom ROM, and consider myself a power user, and never miss those features at all.

SD cards were nice back when phones had like 16GB of onboard storage and you needed more space for apps and media, but with 512GB onboard storage and the ability to use cloud storage at Wifi 7 speeds, I couldn't imagine needing more.

Integrated headphone jacks were nice before the vast majority of people used Bluetooth headphones. Even then, a tiny adapter lets me connect any of my old wired headphones or aux cables up no problem.

We're 18 years into the smartphone age. When the first smartphones came out in 2006, microsd cards were only 2 years old. Now they're 20 years old. Are we really surprised that this feature is no longer standard?

The 3.5mm headphone jack has been around since the 1950's, and adapters have been required for tons of audio applications for even longer than that. Do we really need a 70-year-old port integrated into new phones?

[–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I can't speak to the sd card situation but I still prefer a headphone jack over Bluetooth. I would argue that the vast majority of people (as you put it) use Bluetooth headphones simply because they were forced into it.

Bluetooth is neat and all but it's also super old (28 years!). It's older than smart phones and sd cards. But age aside, it's also not reliable. You cannot guarantee it will work everytime you need it. Whereas you could reasonably expect a headphone jack to work everytime. So replacing old reliable with old not-reliable doesn't seem right from a logical perspective.

My only other concern is convenience. But wired and wireless both have pros and cons and I just consider them more or less equal.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bluetooth also introduces significant latency (noticeable for gaming) and lower audio quality. What a bad deal.

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

Audio quality reduction might not be noticeable to the average user, as long as they don't use the mic

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I feel like everyone keeps arguing with me about "Wired vs. Bluetooth", but that has not been my argument.

My argument is "what's the big deal about using a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter?"

You still get wired headphones. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and use my Sennheisers on them. I do not understand the problem. The feature isn't missing, and the adapter is like $5 and has no downsides. For a couple extra bucks I got a Power+Aux adapter, and now I can plug it into my sound system at home and play it wired while it charges.

[–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You mentioned two situations where you need additional adapters (to use headphones and aux output) but a 3.5mm jack would completely mitigate the need for them.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I love how anyone with half a fucking brain gets down voted.

Rather than point out where youre wrong thet just keep yelling about Bluetooth and downvotig once they realize they've run out of "gotchas"

Anyone fucking stupid enough to think the 3.5mm Jack is a good thing deserves the disappointment they feel every time a device doesn't have own, tbh, bring it on themselves

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I love how anyone with ~~half a fucking brain~~ poor conversational skills and an inability to see things from someone else's perspective gets down voted.

Try talking to people online as though they were in the same room as you, IRL. If you're already doing that, I have to ask, how many offline friends do you have?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have been, I don't respect people who want things to stay the way they were because they refuse to try new things.

People with very polite and normal responses were gettug downvoters just because they offered solutions that can't be dismissed easily, so downvoting was done instead.

It allllways comes to the civility argument when people know their position is dog shit, too. Cute.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a position on cell phone interfaces and hadn't planed to give one. No skin in this game, really, though it's clearly a contentious issue!

I just can't help but notice when people are being terrible conversation partners, mostly. Me finding you to be an asshole has nothing to do with how I feel about cell phone ports.

Anyone fucking stupid enough to think the 3.5mm Jack is a good thing deserves the disappointment they feel every time a device doesn’t have own, tbh, bring it on themselves

Are you 12?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just can't help but notice when people are being terrible conversation partners, mostly

Funny that you called me the one not paying attention to other people's desires when all I did was point out that the people claiming there was literally no other option were wrong. I'd consider burying your head in the sand and pretending adapters don't exist as being a garbage conversation partner.

Are you 12?

No, but you must be if you think what I said is in any way contentious. People in this thread are being gigantic whiners about pointless shit and I have nothing but contempt for them after seeing the dogshit arguments for their side and personal attacks at me rather than actual points being made.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

👍 Good luck out there!

[–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you might have half a brain. Me and the gentleman on the other side of the argument are having a conversation right now so please go away.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, that's not how public forums work.

Don't like me replying to someone else? You can fuck off, you know?

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