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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (47 children)

In the early days of Starship I was a little bit optimistic. The "move fast and break things" strategy had quickly succeeded when SpaceX was trying to land boosters, so I was hopeful that each exploding Starship was one step closer to a working spacecraft.

But at this point it's just sad. I don't see anything resembling progress.

I think the boosters were a "fake it till we make it" thing that luckily worked out. I don't think Starship will ever make it into space.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (15 children)

“move fast and break things”

Sounds like a slogan for one of Stalin's "Five Year Plans."

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Too bad that Mark Zuckerberg coined it as a motto for Facebook then, huh?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Garbage minds must think alike, then.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol what kind of comeback is that? We know he said that, dumbass, that was the entire point of their reference. Do you like... Not know who Stalin is?

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Will every reader know that? Will every reader also know the finer nuances of the 3 downward arrows, one of them referring to Stalin's authoritarianism? I'm not here to score sick comebacks? 🤷‍♀️

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Huh that's interesting...

Maybe we can hear directly from them about their views on Stalin:

The Three Arrows were adopted as an official social democrat symbol by the SPD leadership and the Iron Front by June 1932. Iron Front members would carry the symbol on their arm bands. The slogan "neither Stalin's slaves nor Hitler's henchmen" was also used by the SPD in connection with the symbol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Arrows#Weimar_Republic

So lol at you falling for some kind of bullshit agitprop just so you can attempt a clever comeback on Lemmy.

I'm using it as a general anti-fascist symbol, and I like the idea of vandalizing swastikas with it.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Im authentically perplexed as to where we disagree and why you're in "sick dunk" mode. Do you think I'm simping for Stalin? The 3 arrows appeal to me for the same reasons they do you, seems.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Will every reader also know the finer nuances of the 3 downward arrows, one of them referring to Stalin’s authoritarianism?

Yeah it seemed like you were implying (or actually just saying) that one of the arrows refers to Stalin's authoritarianism. Which is a bad thing, right? Do we agree on that? And I have it as my profile pic... So I dunno how else I was supposed to take your comment?

And to be clear, again, it is not true that one of the arrows refers to Stalin in any way.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Down with all forms of authoritarianism" is how i associate with the symbol. We do inded agree fash in any manifestation are a bad thing.

Meanwhile here in the Elon thread, I'd like for folks not to associate Communism with dead bigoted tyrants who usurped the unions-of-unions that were Soviets, while misattributing a quote from a capitalist whose competing to have as much blood on his hands as Stalin did.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Bruh, you brought Stalin up?

I'm so confused by what you're trying to say.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I didnt bring stalin up. The comment i was replying to misattributed (or "sounds like"'d, if you prefer) a quote from Zuckerberg to Stalin. That read to me as right-wing rhetoric, pushing red scare, equating Communism, the society which is classes, moneyless, stateless, and flattening that concept into "been-tried-already-Stalin's-Tyranny"

Which is pretty gross considering the big picture; the extensive harm which not only Zuck/ FB has done, not only by technocratic bro billionaires and corpo-owner social media as a trend, but the overall economic system and specifically imperial-colonial project which it is an extension of (colonizing of minds and thought, of our attention, to advertise to, for quarterly profit and power coupons) -- all the while doing their best to promote apathy.

To prefigure a betted society, we must be able to dream. The only thing doomerism does is give the owning class that apathy while they bulldoze over Sudan, Palestine, Rojava

Or at least thats how I see. All of the power and pleasure to all of the people. Hope that clears things up.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you reply to the wrong comment? Because my comment you replied to said nothing about Stalin or Zuckerberg or any of that shit. I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My initial comment in this thread was in response to someone (maskenox?) conflating the two. (Neither of which i am fond of, to be abundantly clear)

Edit: also, yes? When i went and folded all the comments...ig your initial reply was also to the same comment? Even though the voyager app shows them as diff colors...yellow and orange...doesnt make it as obvious and it isnt clear when it indents and when not... 💀

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No worries lol, explains my confusion of you bringing to Stalin lol...

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Lol took us > 2 weeks but we got to the bottom of it

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