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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 6 months ago (13 children)

This is exactly what people like me warned about. The push for copyright-protections against GenAI is not going to stop GenAI. It's just going to create a future where only the big players can make AI models because they can pay for "licenses" with those strong enough to threaten them (while scraping everyone else anyway) and just kill open sourced models.

We're seeing it play it exactly like that. Y'all can't stop GenAI. You literally don't have enough power where it counts. The only sane solution is to push that any GenAI model trained on public data must have open weights by default.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If we don't have the power to stop generative AI, then what makes you think we have the power the change copyright law? Generative AI uses up huge amount of power and water to the point of causing issues for national infrastructure. There is a clear climate case to be made against generative AI and unlike copyright law the public actually care about climate change.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You cannot stop GenAI unless you stop sales of all gaming GPUs and recall all sold ones world wide. You just can't. That cat's out of the bag. You can try to restrict big corpos like OpenAI, but your politicians and bought already. Therefore adding your voice to trying to "stop GenAI" via copyright laws is just playing yourself. You can try to restrict GenAI via climate protections, but that will go as well as efforts to stop supporting genocides (or as well efforts have gone to protect the climate anyway).

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If our politicians are already bought and sold to the point that calling for these industries to be regulated is pointless, then why would politicians listen to our calls for 'open weights by default'.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They won't, of course. But they will use the pressure towards copyrights against AI to kill open source GenAI progress. But at least when advocating for Open models, you don't hurt the people who are doing FOSS.

[–] applepie@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

Bro that OpenAI clown daddy literally went to congress telling them to regulate them straight of Faceberg's playbook. These parasites ask for regulation once they feel good enough about their position.

Regulation entrenches them, after that it is time to harvest profits from captured market and abuse the peasants to Z MAX

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