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[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago (21 children)

IANAL, but.. I'm guessing GOG is of the opinion that they're selling you a license that you own, and can thus bequeath to your heirs, where Steam is of the opinion they're selling you a nontransferable license, so a will bequeathing it to someone would be seeking to enforce something you lack permission to do.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Neither am I lol.

Aren't non-transferable licenses basically illegal or void in the US because they violate the First-Sale-Doctrine though? Or perhaps it does not apply to digital products and that is how Valve applies it to Steam accounts?

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

As far as I am aware, most of the game and sofrware companies get around it by stating you're no longer buying a thing, but buying a non-transferrable licence to use the thing but you never actually own anything.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft, yes but they use the wording to buy windows license for example. Game companies still use wording "buy" game. Unless they change the purchase wording, I, as a consumer, am assuming I am buying a copy of the game I can play indefinitely while I own the game.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its in the standard terms of service now for the big AAA publishers.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I understand that point. However, the point I am making is (going to make as black and white as possible, oversimplifying it on purpose):

If you're selling a digital product (a non physical item), and use any of the following terms:

  • buy (ex. Buy now, buy today, etc)
  • purchase (ex. purchase now, purchase today, purchase to play, etc)
  • Own (ex. Own today, own and play today, etc)
  • Copy (ex. Get your copy today, your copy is waiting, we have your copy waiting, etc)

Then, I, as consumer of physical goods, being used to these types of wording meaning ownership of a copy without the ability of the manufacturer to come to my house and take the product away when they feel like or disable/remove songs, parts of movies or whatever by coming to my house and scratching off that part of the Blu-ray or DVD or whatever, should not be tricked into this by having to then read a 1000 word essay of legal speak saying you do not own what you are buying but are infact:

  • Renting
  • Licensing
  • Borrowing
  • Leasing

Said product, then that should violate some law about false advertising.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes. Absolutely.

However, no one has taken the companies that started doing that to task, and now even companies like John Deer have been pulling that shit.

Hell, Monsanto actually took farmers to court on that principle for growing crops that had been naturally cross pollinated with "their" GMO crops using that principle.

I am not disagreeing with you. I am stating what we have allowed the rich fucks to get away with.

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