this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2024
301 points (96.9% liked)

Technology

59605 readers
4225 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Gross! Couldn't even let schools decide, somehow it's important to ban them state-wide? Piss off.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (11 children)

The state is responsible for the education of children. This absolutely falls within their scope.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 5 months ago (10 children)

A state wide mono-culture based on an unsolved cultural issue isn't "education" it's inherently heavy handed.

It also actively harms schools that may be trying to teach students how to use cell phones productively in their lives to help them solve problems rather than pretending as though they don't exist.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How it's handled in countries such as Norway or The Netherlands is that those kinds of classes are exempt from the ban. It's not a hard issue to solve.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So that's in this bill right?

Right?

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

~~Beats me, I don't live in the US.~~

I stand corrected. It doesn't include that as far as we know, on account of the bill not existing yet, not even in draft form. If you don't mind, I'm going to ignore everything else you say now.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not. This is boomer reactionary garbage. Right up there with video games causing crime.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure thing, bud. So far all the studies disagree with you, though.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Unless you're talking about treating smart phones like cigarettes it's not going to work the way you think it is though.

But no instead she's going to try and make parents buy another phone to send to school with their kids and do what with 800 dollar smart phones? What's the enforcement mechanism?

Are you ready for all the stories of the government confiscating expensive hardware from kids?

And for what gain? The second the kids are out of school the smart phones will come out again. So the only advantage is inside the school itself and we already have policies that deal with that.

This ban, especially being placed into state law, doesn't have anywhere good to go and is just going to be the modern DARE program, teaching kids the rules don't matter.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Part of that is teaching people how to control their impulses and stay on task.

Your workspace isn't going to have you hang your phone up on the wall somewhere when you come into work and have someone tell you "now is the time to use your phone."

College isn't going to do it either.

We also could take some cues that maybe this isn't all as serious as we make it out to be. My high school back in the 2010s gave us a ton of busy work, insisted on making it effectively mandatory if you wanted a decent grade, didn't let people go to the bathroom without asking permission and using a sign out sheet, insisted every second of every lesson was crucial, and was very strict about not pulling out your cell phone basically ever (kids still snuck texts here and there).

I see more merits for small children, but in general I'm strongly in favor of radical changes to how we approach education ... because learning should be fun but is not for so many people ... and we forget so much of what we've been "taught" anyways.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)