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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Turing test? LMAO.

I asked it simply to recommend me a supermarket in our next bigger city here.

It came up with a name and it told a few of it's qualities. Easy, I thought. Then I found out that the name does not exist. It was all made up.

You could argue that humans lie, too. But only when they have a reason to lie.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's not what LLMs are for. That's like hammering a screw and being irritated it didn't twist in nicely.

The turing test is designed to see if an AI can pass for human in a conversation.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

turing test is designed to see if an AI can pass for human in a conversation.

I'm pretty sure that I could ask a human that question in a normal conversation.

The idea of the Turing test was to have a way of telling humans and computers apart. It is NOT meant for putting some kind of 'certified' badge on that computer, and ...

That's not what LLMs are for.

...and you can't cry 'foul' if I decide to use a question for which your computer was not programmed :-)

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In a normal conversation sure.

In this kind Turing tests you may be disqualified as a jury for asking that question.

Good science demands controlled areas and defined goals. Everyone can organize a homebrew touring tests but there also real proper ones with fixed response times, lengths.

Some touring tests may even have a human pick the best of 5 to provide to the jury. There are so many possible variations depending on test criteria.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

you may be disqualified as a jury for asking that question.

You want to read again about the scientific basics of the Turing test (hint: it is not a tennis match)

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

There is no competition in science (or at least there shouldn't be). You are subjectively disqualified from judging llm's if you draw your conclusions on an obvious trap which you yourself have stated is beyond the scope of what it was programmed to do.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev -2 points 5 months ago

It wasn't programmed for any questions. It was trained hehe

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