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[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I'd rather see what RISC-V has to offer.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago (9 children)

As a fellow risc-v supporter, I think the rise of arm is going to help risc-v software support and eventually adoption. They’re not compatible, but right now developers everywhere are working to ensure their applications are portable and not tied to x86. I imagine too that when it comes to emulation, emulating arm is going to be a lot easier than x86, possibly even statically recompilable.

[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (8 children)

They’re not compatible

This is what concerns me. ARM could dominate the market because almost everyone would develop apps supporting it and leave RISC-V behind. It could become like Itanium vs AMD64 all over again.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is a risk on the Windows side for sure. Also, once an ISA becomes popular ( like Apple Silicon ) it will be hard to displace.

Repurposing Linux software for RISC-V should be easy though and I would expect even proprietary software that targets Linux to support it ( if the support anything beyond x86-64 ).

Itanium was a weird architecture and you either bet on it or you did not. RISC and ARM are not so different.

The other factor is that there is a lot less assembly language being used and, if you port away from x64, you are probably going to get rid of any that remains as part of that ( making the app more portable ).

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Apple Silicon isn't an ISA, it's just ARM, what are you saying?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Once a chip architecture gets popular on Windows, it will be hard to displace. ARM has already become popular on macOS ( via Apple Silicon ) so we know that is not going anywhere. If ARM becomes popular on Windows ( perhaps via X Elite ), it will be hard to displace as the more popular option. That makes RISC-V on Windows a more difficult proposition.

I do not think that RISC-V on Linux has the same obstacles other than that most hardware will be manufactured for Windows or Mac and will use the chips popular with those operating systems.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

I think you missed the forest for the trees my friend. I was simply commenting on the fact you made it sound like Apple Silicon is it's own ISA.

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