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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

We're reaching the point where discussing cost in regard to the energy crisis makes us look like fucking idiots.

Imagine what kids reading the history books are going to think of these discussions.

And 10 years isn't that long really. If someone said we could use no fossil fuels in energy generation in 10 years time that doesn't sound long at all.

[–] mormund@feddit.de 28 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Cost is a proxy for productivity and resources. So while it is stupid to say that the energy transition is too expensive, shouldn't we rather invest our productivity and resources into a faster and cheaper solution? Drawing focus away from renewables is dangerous as others have mentioned, because it is too late to reach our goals with nuclear.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No I don't think so. Nuclear is super effective and consistent, especially for large setups.

Using renewables while we get our nuclear up makes complete sense. And subsidising nuclear with renewables after that also makes sense.

But the technology to rely entirely on renewables isn't really there either.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

But the technology to rely entirely on renewables isn't really there either.

Yes, it is.

https://books.google.com/books/about/No_Miracles_Needed.html?id=aVKmEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description

This is a book by a professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering that goes into the details. We don't need nuclear. All the tech is there.

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