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For those wanting to build a Wayland-only Linux desktop experience without carrying any aging X11 baggage, GNOME 47 will be able to optionally offer Wayland-only support without carrying X11/X.Org support. This Mutter merge request landed today that allows compiling Mutter with X11 support disabled. That landed today along with this GNOME Shell merge request for being able to disable X11 support too.

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 54 points 4 months ago (27 children)

I love the fact that it's optional.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 4 months ago (25 children)

I wonder how long it'll be possible to build Gnome with Xorg support. If I had to guess I'd say there won't be any support within the next 3 years, because keeping future Gnome working with Xorg is work nobody wants to put in.

That said, Xwayland will likely keep being around for the foreseeable future.

Out of curiosity, do you use Xorg and if yes, what's keeping you from using Wayland?

[–] thejackimonster@wehavecookies.social 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@Chewy7324 @GolfNovemberUniform I'd say as soon as screen readers work properly under Wayland, they could drop X11 builds. But they should definitely not do it before fixing that.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think that could be solved with a XDG portal

[–] thejackimonster@wehavecookies.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@possiblylinux127 That would definitely be part of it, I assume. Does Wayland already track text rendering and its contents?

Because somehow text from any UI would need to be detected.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The actual implementation would be per desktop. The desktop draws to the screen and then the apps connect to the desktop. We already have a window capture XDG portal that is used by things like OBS. We could huild a simular portal for just text on the screen. We would just need some way of either recognizing text or even better some sort of image to text engine like what is in Firefox.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying to use an image to text engine just for what are text fields in applications? That sounds horribly inefficient...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

It would work for images as well. It doesn't need to be exclusively used but sometimes text is rendered at a pixel level.

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