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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (19 children)

"they certainly don't hate them enough to chase them away when they are smoking meth on the train" sounds kinda like you think that should be done and that the issue is people not hating the unhoused enough.

Especially when you come into a space that explicitly advocates for abolishing landlords and start saying that stuff, you should expect ridicule. Instead of complaining about it in other spaces for 5 days and repeatedly doubling down you could just do some very basic self-crit.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (13 children)

So whats your plan other then just let them smoke meth and steal from people obviously something needs to be done but putting your head in the sand and pretending there isn't actually a problem won't fix anything

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

A socialist state where housing is a guarantee and where poverty doesn't lead to widespread drug use because it doesn't exist. Also addiction recovery programs in the transitional state.

Why. What is yours, push them into a comically large blender? Or a prison, how about a prison?

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sure where people have wings and cancer doesn't exist yes the communist state is so great you choose to live in the west

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For as much as the news talks about a declining birth rate, you are aware that people are still born in the west, right?

"Move"

You knowing moving isn't free and it isn't easy for most people to get a job in a country whose language they don't speak, right?

Furthermore, even if someone does move, then you don't take it as proof they are a hypocrite but rather proof they are delusional, so your original claims is just bad faith bullshit.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well apparently everything is free in the communist utopia of china I'm sure you will do ok as a white dude with no money in china

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You joke but if you're a photgenic white dude, you can get hired just to stand around in a suit.

Kind of my dream job tbh

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whoever said any of that?

On the bright side, since you seemed to imagine that I was going there, you proved my point that the first claim ("why don't you move there?") is bad faith bullshit

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that real world socialist states don't have a homelessness problem anywhere approaching the west, especially the US, right?

The only fantasy here is in your capitalist realism soaked brain.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right the millions of poor rural Chinese living below the poverty line don't exist sure if you pretend that the problem doesn't exist it makes it easier to believe the ccp propaganda

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the poverty line is very made up bullshit based on nothing but vibes some economists had, not even any statistics, it should be higher in a lot of places, lower in others where the price of things is lower, but in any case, no one claimed poor rural Chinese people don't exist, ThereRisesARedStar said they don't have a homelessness problem anywhere approaching the west, which is true, all of those poor rural Chinese people have homes, hell most of them even own their own homes, they don't even rent, so, what exactly is your point? China has been the largest alleviator of poverty in modern history, yet, they do still have poverty, it has not been eradicated yet, but, they do not have a homelessness issue due to government initiatives that have worked very hard to make sure there is enough housing for their population (see western propaganda about ghost cities and the reality of how they're all filled with people now)

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep figured just ignore facts who needs facts when you can just dogpile and gaslight anyone who doesn't think xi is gods gift to humanity

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You are ignoring entire cities.

Westoid cope is going to reach Lovecraftian madness-levels in the next few years

[–] Clever_Clover@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

what facts did I deny? do you want me to get you the homelessness and home ownership statistics for China? I assure you that they support my point, which is that the majority of people in China (even the poor rural people) are not homeless and even own their own homes.

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Bruh do you have any idea how quickly I and so many other people here would pack our bags and move to China if we had the chance

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