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Helldivers 2 director weighs in on Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree's difficulty: 'A game for everyone is a game for no one' (www.pcgamer.com)
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[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You have so many options to make it easier.

You can summon spirit ashes. You can level your character to become stronger. You can summon NPCs and player for boss fights.

I don't like those options. So I don't do that. I make it harder on myself, by forgoing those options, I want the challenge of doing it alone.

But if YOU want to make it easier, and slide the difficulty down. And summon ashes or npcs or other players, You can do that. You have that option.

You bought a game that you knew would be full of "difficult" bosses, from a company that has never had an official "difficulty slider" on any of their games in this genre. And now you sit and complain about there not being an official "difficulty slider".

Do you also go to a vegan restaurant and complain they're not inclusive because you can't order meat?

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You have so many options to make it easier.

Like the third-party Easy Mode mod.

You bought a game that you knew would be full of “difficult” bosses

I bought a game that I knew had a working Easy Mode mod. I would not have bought it if it hadn't. Because the designers are assholes, but assholes who can write a decent story.

And now you sit and complain about there not being an official “difficulty slider”.

Yes, I do. And you sit and complain about another human being having an opinion despite the fact you could just NOT complain about other human beings having an opinion. Funny how people "sit and" do things.

Do you also go to a vegan restaurant and complain they’re not inclusive because you can’t order meat?

No, but that's not an apple-to-apple comparison, making that a False Analogy fallacy. For two reasons. First, whether I agree with it or not, veganism is an ethical position and they're refusing to serve any meat on the menu because they think it's morally wrong to. Do you think Fromsoft thinks they're "going to hell" if they put in a difficulty slider? Second, vegan restaurants are ABOUT veganism. There's no reason to choose to eat at a vegan restaurant unless you or someone in your party is looking to have a meal without meat in it for some reason. There's plenty of reasons to play Fromsoft games but at lower difficulty. Most people don't like Bloodborne or Elden Ring "because it's difficult/unforgiving". They like it because of the story. Anyone who would opt out of playing those games because someone else could play them on easier has serious issues.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It is a great apple to apple comparison. What you did was walk in, get upset that the vegan restaurant only served vegan food. So you came back with your own home-cooked meal to sit down and eat.

The reason you don't like it is because it highlights just how ridiculous you are in your complaint.

They made a piece of art. You chose to buy it knowing what it was. Git gud

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is a great apple to apple comparison.

This is the "nuh uh" answer. You never quantified anything. it's sorta a "fuck you, I know you showed my argument was a fallacy, but I'm better than you so I'm doubling down". I spend too much time in places where that shit gets laughed at. I'm going back to those places. Enjoy your shit game.

They made a piece of art. You chose to buy it knowing what it was. Git gud

No. I chose to buy Bloodborne because people convinced me that wasn't the case. Git blocked.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

You really are something else. I strongly disagree that you showed my argument was faulty.

They made a piece of art. You chose to buy it knowing what it was. Git gud

No. I chose to buy Bloodborne because people convinced me that wasn’t the case. Git blocked.

We both know the conversation is about Elden Ring and not Bloodborne. But I suppose you have nothing better to respond with.