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[–] ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If choosing red or blue doesn't work, and choosing another option also doesn't work, then what good does feeling self righteous about your decision to pick one over the other do? Unless you're suggesting that the shitty reality of our situation is that we're fucked and nothing will work at all no matter what - which is a level of defeatism that I don't think is very helpful either.

[–] Charapaso@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Voting for the slightly less shit option makes it easier for the things we do in parallel to have a positive impact: direct action doesn't get slowed down much by voting once a year or so.

[–] ssj2marx@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I won't deny that people can do multiple things at once, I just don't agree with the premise that voting matters in the current paradigm.

[–] Charapaso@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I don't think it does much, but any tiny contribution to the fight against climate change is a good for the world, as is any slowing of the erosion of civil rights domestically, gutting of what remains of medicare/medicaid, etc.

I also know a GOP administration will be worse in terms of fighting against leftist movements in the streets, if only slightly. They're definitely worse re: labor movements overall, again: even if only marginally.

So I'm not going to claim it's a panacea, or even someone that will have notable effects, but I do think it matters at the margins, so the effort required is usually worth it, IMHO

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