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Pro: 1Gb upload and download speeds on free Internet provided by the HOA. Con: As a self hoster, I have zero control over it. No port forwarding, no DMZ, no bridge mode. It's Starbucks free WiFi with a wired connection.

Option A: Buy Google Fiber and don't use free Internet. Option B: Create some elaborate tunnel through a VPS.

My public self hosted activities are fairly low bandwidth (password manager, SSH). I have a vague idea that I could point my domain to a low cost VPS that has a VPN tunnel into my home network for any incoming connection needs. That may require me to fill in port forwards on both systems but whatever. Tailscale is serving most of my remote needs but I still need a few ports. This does not fix the issue of online gaming port forwards (Nintendo Switch online requires a huge forwarded range for best performance) but oh well for now.

UPDATE: I think they're using this system. https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/markets/multi-family-living/ The personal Wi-Fi overview makes it clear each AP is given it's own VLAN which sounds a whole lot like the whole building is sharing one IP and there's no way I'm going to get my own Internet access. They even detail how you can roam the building and maintain your WiFi connection across your neighbor's and the common areas APs. This is the IPV4 future.

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[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If the HOA's router supports UPnP/NAT-PMP/PCP then you might be able to use that to get some ports forwarded.

[–] johnnixon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The setup is very strange. They don't provide a router. They took the old phone lines going to each unit (which appears to have been done in Cat5 decades ago) and put an RJ-45 end on it. That plugs into a POE powered wireless access point with two more ports on it. Plugging my laptop in, the gateway does not respond to HTTP requests. The tech who installed it said I have to call the home office to change my wireless password. I got them to disable the wireless so I could put my router on the other end but I'm either running on a network that my shady small time ISP has full control over or I'm behind a double NAT. Speeds were 900+ up and down though.

I might see if I can get the AP re-enabled and let the switch connect to it directly if that even fixes the Switch's NAT issues.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry you have to deal with this. I know it wasn't in your list of options, but you could attend HOA meetings, bring up the internet issue and see if they'll change the current setup, or you could get elected to an HOA board and start pulling the strings of change. That's more of a long-term goal though.

[–] johnnixon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

That's an interesting concept. I bought two weeks ago when they still had cable modems and a setup I know I could have worked with. I'm politically active so getting on the board should be an option. However, what's in the best interest of the vast, vast majority of the owners? Your standard service that requires complex gateways and running coax all over your apartment with hardware rental fees and TV number and location limits, or a system where your smart TV can connect anywhere and your iPhone can always get onto Facebook and there's a 24/7 tech support line to change your WiFi password for you? If it costs each owner $1 more per month (500 units) for my preferred network architecture so three residents can save $70 per month ($210) I would be failing in my fiduciary duty by charging the masses more so a select few can self host. We are the minority and the rest don't care.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you need to find out what kind of connection you actually have. I mean, it's unlikely you've got a dedicated ethernet cable to the ISP.

Where does that ethernet line actually go?

Have you run some basic traceroutes, at least?

[–] johnnixon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Smartaira fiber. Best I can gather they're using a a managed switch and segmenting each port. Probably per floor. They sprcialize in large scale wifi deployment and that's what they're doing. It's a genius way to provide basic web access with a minimal hardware footprint for the provider and no hardware but a POE AP for the users. It just sucks for those of us who know better.

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