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Chinese space firm unintentionally launches its new rocket (arstechnica.com)

submitted 4 months ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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The rocket was undergoing a static fire test of the stage, in which a vehicle is clamped to a test stand while its engines are ignited, when the booster broke free. According to a statement from the company, the rocket was not sufficiently clamped down and blasted off from the test stand "due to a structural failure."

Video of the accidental ascent showed the rocket rising several hundred meters into the sky before it crashed explosively into a mountain 1.5 km away from the test site.

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[–] Kraiden@kbin.run 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

I don't think what he's saying about Falun Gong is so far fetched to be outside the realm of plausibility.

There's been enough reports of similar treatment of other groups, like the Uyghurs and Tibetans, from reputable sources that I believe something is going on there.

As for sources, if the CCP is half as bad as he makes them out to be, it would be irresponsible of him to give sources.

I don't know enough to refute anything you've said, but frankly you're less credible than him right now. I mean no offense but you have a single comment on your account and you've offered nothing to support your claim of twisted truth.

Too much smoke to conclude there's no fire

[–] Clear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

I'm not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP, but he specifically say that, and I quote: "Falun Gong is a meditation practice that started in 1992 in China. At the core of the Falun Gong are values of truthfulness, compassion and tolerance." But the omits the fact that that group is anti gay, anti feminism, anti evolution, is anti medicine and is leader is worshipped as a deity. I wouldn't consider someone who spread such lies as a good source, because at that point he could be lying about anything, that's Alex Jones level of manipulation of the Truth. And you're right, the CCP is a terrible dictatorship, b8t all the info that I have said are freely accessible by an internet search, or even on Wikipedia, they're not some hidden secret that need protection from the CCP such that he have the right to just say things without having to prove them.

And yes, I only have this comments, I prefer to just lurk usually, but this doesn't invalidate my points.

[–] Kraiden@kbin.run 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, none of that was in your original post. Not knowing all of that, I think it was a safe assumption you meant the allegations of mistreatment by the CCP, rather than the Falun Gong claims of benevolence.

Obviously you didn't though, and a quick Google search suggests you might have some valid points. I didn't know any of that!

However, I do want to point out that you could say most of the same things about fundamental Christians, and while I'd personally take the same view of those types ( I do believe they're a dangerous cult) I wouldn't say anyone calling them peaceful religious types was engaging in "Alex Jones level of manipulation of the truth" and wouldn't discount them entirely for holding that view. Particularly when, as you say, it's very likely they are actually being persecuted

But hey, if nothing else I think you've shown that I have no idea what I'm talking about here. Maybe that comparison doesn't actually hold. Also, for all I know he's a bought and paid for propagandist. Honestly, nothing surprises me these days

[–] Clear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Hey I just found out that that guy is very much probably a paid propagandists, I don't have any direct sources to prove it but I can point to this video on why I think it is the case: