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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 160 points 4 months ago (17 children)

If something requires an "app" and a connection to "the cloud" for basic functionality, don't buy it. This sort of abandonment by the manufacturer will always happen. Maybe it will last longer. Maybe it will be next week. But once the company has your money, the last thing they want to do is to spend any of that money providing you with support.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The funny thing about this is that the first time I had that moment of realization was when I got the Sphero BB-8 toy from my kids for Christmas. It had a dedicated app. The reason it’s funny is because, out of all the things that I own, it’s the only app-driven one that still works. Sphero just merged it into their main app. Once that app stops getting updated, this toy will cease to work despite everything about it being functional. ☹️

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 24 points 4 months ago

This is why i am for mandatory open sourcing of abandonware. So much stuff just laying wasted that could be hacked.

But allowing you to diy your own toys might make you consume less and thats bad or something.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

As long as you can side load a functional apk to a supported Android device, it should work, no?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Android eventually locks out apps designed for older APIs. I remember reading about a bunch of abandoned apps being dropped from the Play Store for that reason. Not sure if that's just the Play Store though or if it is the Android OS itself. I haven't ever kept a phone beyond the manufacturer providing security updates since I actually use my phone for secure things.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You have to enable developer mode and install with --bypass-low-target-sdk-block now.

Dunno if they'll remove that eventually

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Don't say that so loud.

You'll have the self-proclaimed "power users" that just copy things they see posted without knowing what it does or possible issues and side effects, doing this and then complaining about issues stemming from it. And never disclosing they did it, blaming it on the system as a whole, ignoring the bypass they did.

Oh wait, this isn't the Windows community.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

Only if it works as a peer to peer, if the device depends on connecting to a company's server (which all do since the whole point was to collect usage habits) then you're shit out of luck whenever they decide you're

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 1 points 4 months ago

It depends on if it requires server side connection or not.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would something like BlueStacks let the app run?

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I’m not sure but that’s a potential solution. You’d have to find the older APK somewhere but I feel like it should work since it’s just a Bluetooth connection to the toy.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

That's funny, I have the exact same toy. It was a Father's day gift years ago. It's now an expensive display piece, as the battery no longer seems to hold a charge. And, as best I can tell, the battery is well sealed inside, making replacement impossible. Yet another thing I hate about our disposable culture.

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