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[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (26 children)

I'm more open to burning the whole edifice of copyright law down than you are, but the key reform that I want that maybe we could agree on is that it should be legal to distribute coprighted works for free. No need to to let someone else try to make a profit by undercutting your sales, but if someone is willing to make and distribute copies (or ecopies) of a work to no profit for themselves they should be allowed to. What that would mean in practice if it was legal would be an online content library containing all human art and culture, freely available for download to all comers. It might hurt the income of some creators, but you'd still have a lot of other ways to make money that don't entail depriving people of that library.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children)

Alright but Archiving is already an exception to most laws (clearly not well enforced seeing what happened to the IA) and your proposal would harm new artists who need to share their works in order to gain publicity for something they intend to sell and sustain themselves on.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

"your proposal would harm young artists who need to share their works in order to gain publicity for something they intend to sell and sustain themselves on."

The default is already for young artists to share a lot of their work hoping to get noticed. Getting rid of copyright would be reorienting the whole system to center that experience more rather than the established artists and art producing corporations who now are in a strong enough position to charge. "Making it" would just mean that your patreon was doing gangbusters rather than selling a lot of copies of whatever your art is.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, it would empower anybody, especially corporations, to take the new artists' ideas and work and repackage them as an item for sale to others. Anything you share would not be covered by copyright and therefor no longer be your property.

Individuals cannot compete with organizations.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you are already sharing something for free in order to gain publicity, what is the downside of others repackaging them and spreading them further? That is exactly the kind of publicity you're trying to gain.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But you're not profiting off of it. The corporation is. They have no incentive to give you credit, every incentive to claim that they made it which they would of course be allowed to do. They could even start making their own derivative pieces or continuations. The artist has gained nothing from this hypothetical.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eliminating copyright doesn't mean they'd be allowed to lie about who wrote what they were publishing. Anything an artist creates blowing up and gaining wide appreciation is very good for that artist's future prospects. An artist who is spreading their work for free anyway is much better off in the scenario where there's no copyright and everyone understands the need to tip / patronize their favorite artists.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Eliminating copyright doesn’t mean they’d be allowed to lie about who wrote what they were publishing.

That is literally what Copyright is. Removing it means exactly that.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

No copyright is about the "right" to "copy" the work in question, not the attribution. Works that are in the public domain still list the author.

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