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I've run a small business for over 10 yeas. I use linux. I'm grateful to the community and I use FOSS where possible.

I have had some issues over the years, but have always been able to get around them (except CAD in 2013), but recently I've had issues with my government (UK). First they introduced 'making tax digital' and told me for years that I would have to buy windows only software (there was no legal option on linux until a few weeks before the deadline (https://www.comsci.co.uk/100PcVatFreeBridge saved the day). The UK Government didn't create a free solution or any route to that as they don't want the source to be open for making tax digital so accounting software companies have made a killing!

This week my internet banking stopped allowing payments, it no longer works in firefox (I'm guessing). On the telephone they asked me 'what search engine I was using'^+^ and advised to use google.

What is the best UK business bank to use if you use linux to run a small business? Do I have to use Chrom(e)ium? Does anyone else use linux for business admin? Is anyone (Freesoftware foundation, etc) thinking about the creeping legislative changes that make it literally illegal to use FOSS and linux?

I wanna be an ally, but its so tiring.

^+^ browser ≠ search engine. Yes, I'm pedantic, at least I didn't confuse them by saying 'quant' or 'duck duck go', OK!?

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They can't "see out" of their own tab either. Websites can only access data in the browser that they create.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Sure they can, with cookies or tracking pixels for example.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What? No. Just... No. My god - the misunderstanding around cookies is ridiculous. I blame the EU - they put a 'warning label' on them an now eveyone thinks they're just evil.

Firstly - Cookies are only allowed to be read/written by the site you requested from. If they could read all cookies that would be a MASSIVE security problem and the internet would be fundamentally unusable for business.

Secondly - This has nothing to do with tabs. Nothing. ... Nothing.

Thirdly - There are "third party" cookies which happen when a site coordinates with a third party for things like advertising and allows them to track hits when their ads are displayed. This requires both sites to cooperate. But also see "firstly" as it won't allow that third party access to, say, your authentication information.

Lastly - This still has nothing to do with tabs.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This requires both sites to cooperate. But also see “firstly” as it won’t allow that third party access to, say, your authentication information.

Nobody here said it would let them see your authentication details, so I'm not sure why you're so vigorously fighting that straw man. Third-party cookies absolutely let them know which other sites you've visited. That's their main purpose.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nobody here said it would let them see your authentication details, so I’m not sure why you’re so vigorously fighting that straw man.

Your session ID is stored in a cookie. That is what a website uses to know that you're logged in. With a XSS attack one can steal your session and use the site as though they were you. So yes - it is "authentication details".

Nobody here mentioned it because nobody here seems to know what they're talking about...

Third-party cookies absolutely let them know which other sites you’ve visited. That’s their main purpose.

And they are not stopped by using a separate VM with a web browser. So....