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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (40 children)

depends. for "AI" "art" the problem is both terms are lies. there is no intelligence and there is no art.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 7 points 4 months ago (19 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (10 children)

i won't, but art has intent. AI doesn't.

Pollock's paintings are art. a bunch of paint buckets falling on a canvas in an earthquake wouldn't make art, even if it resembled Pollock's paintings. there's no intent behind it. no artist.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How can you tell if an entity has intent or not?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

comes with having a brain and knowing what intent means.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but where do you draw a line in AI of having an intent. Surely AGI has intent but you say current AIs do not.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yes because there is no intelligence. AI is a misnomer. intent needs intelligence.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How can you tell there is no intelligence? If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, why is it not a duck?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

because if you teach me to pronounce some japanese words without teaching me what it means, i may say them perfectly, and even trick some people who don't see my face into thinking I'm speaking native japanese, even though i don't know what the fuck I'm saying. the fact that i tricked some people into thinking otherwise does not make me a japanese person.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is a very poor comparison. AIs do not use prewritten answers, unless you think we live in the 1960s

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

that's not the point... the point is that AI doesn't know what the fuck it's doing.

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