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It is hard to imagine that there was not someone inside of Nike that lost their faith in humanity when the pitch for these things was originally taking off.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 317 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Remember folks: Any smart device you have that requires an internet connection or app is e-waste waiting to happen at the company's whim.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

I mean, there are some devices that fundamentally have to be online to be useful. You're not losing anything there.

A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn't a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.

The problem is when you have a device that doesn't have that fundamental requirement but is then unnecessarily tied to an online service. Home automation requiring Internet connectivity, for example, when virtually no home automation actually requires access to any online services, or converting non-live-service video games to live-service video games.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn't a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.

Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that's not the best example as I've got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.

They really should be forced to, at minimum, release unlocking tools to allow 3rd party firmware. (Think flashing OpenWRT to a Roku and using it as a travel router or something). Ideally, they'd also release a development kit to foster "after-life" uses of such devices.

Lots of companies will accept old devices back (supposedly to recycle), but there's another "R", re-use, that's also an important part of the process.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.

Just look at Spotify's Car Thing.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 8 points 4 months ago

Thank you, lol. I knew there was a very recent example but was blanking on it.

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