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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

You have to vote for Genocide Joe to finish off the Palestinians and throw even more asylum seekers into concentration camps and send more missiles to Nazis, otherwise you're a fascist or something.

[–] pezhore@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I mean at least Biden is a slow roll, Trump would rather nuke them.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This only logical conclusion to this naive utilitarianism is reaching a point 30 years from now when liberals will be frothing at the mouths in support of the dem candidate who wants 5 genocides as opposed to the republican who wants 10.

There is a legend about a certain species of caterpillar that can only cross the threshold of metamorphosis by seeing its future butterfly. Proletarian subjectivity does not evolve by incremental steps but requires non-linear leaps, especially moral self-recognition through solidarity with the struggle of a distant people, even when this contradicts short-term self-interest, as in the famous cases of Lancashire cotton workers’ enthusiasm for Lincoln and later for Gandhi. Socialism, in other words, requires non-utilitarian actors, whose ultimate motivations and values arise from structures of feeling that others would deem spiritual. Marx rightly scourged romantic humanism in the abstract, but his personal pantheon—Prometheus and Spartacus, Homer, Cervantes, and Shakespeare—affirmed a heroic vision of human possibility that no longer seems to have any purchase in our fallen world.

Mike Davis

[–] roux@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

Both side should just compromise and go with 7.5 genocides.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If I was on the receiving end of the genocide, I would rather just have a nuke end my people's suffering than get slowly meat-grinder'd to death by the IDF; but that's just me.

Also bonus points for irradiating the fascists in Israel.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If Isreal just wanted every Palestinian dead and nothing else, don't you think they would have dropped their own nukes on October 8? Zionists have no interest in irradiating the manifest destiny prize they're currently waging a doomed invasion to take.

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