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If you’re vegan and you don’t supplement with B12 or eat food specifically fortified with B12, I don’t think you’re being optimally healthy.
You don’t have to believe me though, just read what the vegan society has to say on this.
If you’re suggesting you can get enough b12 purely through a diet without animal products, supplements or fortified food you’ve misunderstood nutritional science.
What I’m railing against is this; vegans say that omnivores eat meat only for taste pleasure and that’s a straw man argument.
No one just eats meat for taste because there is also a nutritional component. In the same way vegans have to supplement with B12 to be healthy so they recognise that things must be eaten beyond just taste pleasure.
Unfortunately for you, in observational studies, vegans on average have better serum B12 levels than carnists do. If you're suggesting you can get enough B12 purely through a diet of animal products, you've misunderstood nutritional science.
Do you know how B12 gets into your meat? It is injected there. ANIMALS CANNOT PRODUCE B12. Just take the fucking supplements instead of using murdered animals as a delivery system for the exact same fucking supplements.
And maybe, if you are trying to sound educated on a subject, do more than a single solitary google search.
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
B12 is produced by microorganisms inside the guts of cows/ruminants.
They don’t inject B12 into animals as far as I know. Maybe you could link a source for that? First I’ve ever heard of it.
No disrespect intended, but you are out of your depth and seemingly don't realize it. You should not be nearly this confident. Instead of googling, "vegans need b12", you should have googled: "cows b12 injection" and come up with some of these hits:
https://morningchores.com/b12-for-livestock/
https://www.drugs.com/vet/vitamin-b-12-1000-mcg-injection.html
https://au.virbac.com/products/sheep-cattle-nutrition/hy-b12-vitamin
https://nz.virbac.com/products/trace-elements/smartshot-b12
https://farmanimal.elanco.com/au/sheep/product-directory/cobalife-vb12
While this 20 seconds of research does not establish that supplementing B12 is actually necessary for livestock, it does go towards establishing that it is an industry-wide practice.
Yeah I probably should have, thanks for those links.
The existence of products designed to inject B12 is different to what I interpreted the person who I replied to was saying though.
I understood them as saying that farms are injecting B12 into animals so that meat gains some kind of nutrient that isn’t naturally occurring or not occurring at an appreciable level.
I have no doubt animals have all kinds of vitamin deficiencies and receive supplements to improve the over all health of the animal and the nutritional value of meat.
But is this the reason they are injecting B12?
Obviously I’ll read more on it.
EDIT: so the very first link basically confirmed what I just said, when an animal is deficient in B12 farmers inject it to make it more healthy. They aren’t injecting B12 into animals because animals just don’t have B12…