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https://lemmy.world/c/politics@lemmy.ml

This suddenly does not work

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It looks like the problem is on lemmy.ml, not lemmy.world

https://lemmy.ml/c/politics

Does not work either.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (10 children)

I slightly disagree. I think what needs to happen is there needs to be general instances, and specialized instances. By the nature of how they work, specialized instances would have more content, but less hosted users.

So Lemmy.World would be a general instance. You can host any community on a general instance, but it will do better if it can be hosted on a specialized instance (which most topics can be).

There may be niche topics that will do better on general instances, mostly if it doesn't fit into any other catagory.

But lets say you want to follow your favorite baseball team. Well, you know Sports.InstanceName has all the sports. So you go there, search for your team and find TeamName@Sports.Instance

And if everybody did this, the fediverse would at least make sense.

But lets say you want a community based on collecting toe nail clippings from the right foots pinky. Well, I can't imagine a specialized instance would ever be made that you'd include THAT community. So you go to RightFootPinkyToeNailClippings@Lemmy.World and it will have like 3 subscribers.

Now, back to the baseball team for a second. IF you only come to the fediverse to talk baseball, maybe you're fine being hosted on Sports.Instance. However most people would want their home instant to be a general instance. So that when they click "local" they get a bit of everything, whereas you hosted on the sports instance would only get sports.

The problem I see with the fediverse is there is a HUUUUUUUUGE learning curve. When you first get here, with zero introduction to the concepts of the platform, you're just thrown in. I've even been insulted by people who assumed I didn't know how the platform worked. Saying "You're supposed to sort by subscribed, dumbass!". The thing is, the problem I was describing WAS sorted by subscribed.

The way I'm describing, a new user can know "oh, this is where I find the sports, this is where I find the music, this is where I find the TV, ect ect ect.

You can still make SportsTeam@Lemmy.World, but without people looking for it there, you won't get many people subscribing unless there's some MAJOR issue with Sports.Instance.

You could also make Baseball.Instance. whereas Sports.Instance would be more of an all inclusive to all sports instance, which would help smaller sports communities grow, Baseball.Instance would be all about baseball communities.

And if I seem like I'm explaining the obvious, thats good. Thats the point. I want it to be obvious what every instance/community is, where it is, before you even seek it out or click it.

Beevisandbutthead@tv.instance. That doesn't exist, but even as a hypothetical example, you already know what that community is going to be, and what that entire instance is catered to. You CAN'T click it, because it's hypothetical, but you already know what it is.

That + a guide to the fediverse would go a LOOOOOONG way for newbies. I still don't know how to visit Lemm.ee main page for example, without going there directly so I can stay logged in. I can figure out how to go to individual communities while logged in (and that whole process needs a simplification while we're on the topic), but I can't go to the main page, so I can click local, and see whats actively being posted to the whole instance like I can on my own instance. Theres probably a way.....and it's probably a bunch of overly complicated series of steps that isn't naturally intuitive. Which is the biggest hurdle for this platform.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

That + a guide to the fediverse would go a LOOOOOONG way for newbies

!newtolemmy@lemmy.ca

but I can’t go to the main page, so I can click local, and see whats actively being posted to the whole instance like I can on my own instance. Theres probably a way…

There is not

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

!newtolemmy@lemmy.ca

That should be the first thing new users see. But also, it doesn't go as far as I'm imagining. I'm imagining more of a wiki, with every single instance, with a description of what kind of content goes on that instance. What is that instance's personality?

And then again for each individual community. You'd know which communities are active, and which not if the wiki doesn't even have anyone that updates the wiki.

There is not

Well that removes a HUGE source of potential that Lemmy could have. It would be the second most useful new feature they could implement.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You’d know which communities are active

There is a weekly thread on !newcommunities@lemmy.world to promote active communities

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And that's great. Thats one way to promote the new communities. Smaller communities as they're just starting out need all the help they can get. I fully appriciate that it exists.

What I'm suggesting would be in addition to that, and it would promote ALL communities. Big and small. It could even have a search bar, where you tell the guide what topics you're interested in, and it could return a list of all communities that fit your search, sorted by big to small.

So, my idea is a different kind of tool. Both should exist, but you would use them for different purposes.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. You don't stay logged in when you go there.

Right now, I can click along the top of the page on Lemmy.World "communities. If I do, it takes me to a list of all the communities on Lemmy.World.

I can't go to another instance directly, and click communities while also being signed in. I can search for other communities on other instances, but I can't get a list of communities while signed in.

I should be able to go to Lemmy.Zip, and it should route me to something like Lemmy.World/Lemmy.zip so I'm viewing Lemmy.zip while still signed into Lemmy.World.

That way you can browse other instances communities and just hit subscribe without having to do the extra work of copying !community@instance.domain then going BACK to Lemmy.World, searching for !community@instance.domain, clicking the search result, and THEN you're inside the community while still signed in.

It would save several steps, plus retain my settings as I do it, and make Lemmy seem like a more seamless experience. Rather than a hodgepodge of various patched together pieces cosplaying as a website.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. You don’t stay logged in when you go there.

There is a button on the right to set your home instance. If you set it, you'll get to the community from your instance

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok.....that did nothing. I'm not logged in. My settings aren't loaded. The little home button turned green......but nothing changed.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Are you using this site and Lemmy in general from a desktop browser?

I just did the test:

Is this not what you were describing above as desired behaviour?

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