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EA SPORTS WRC adds new Kernel level anticheat that breaks linux support (www.ea.com)
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[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 58 points 3 months ago (9 children)

At this point we want antivirus and anticheat out of windows kernel. Microsoft killing access to it will genuinely fix Linux compatibility issues.

It couldn't be more win-win.

Microsoft is trying to test that approach. The company tested restricting kernel access to third party security vendors in the past, with Vista OS in 2006, but had to backtrack the move.

Symantec and McAfee then claimed Microsoft’s decision to shut off access to the kernel amounts to “anti-competitive behavior.”

Without kernel access, this software may struggle to perform in-depth behavioral analyses of processes and applications, to meet its objectives, said Varkey. “Blocking this access can limit the software’s ability to detect and prevent sophisticated attacks.”

They can't be trusted, kick out everyone's access to the kernel. Everyone must use API and that can be interpreted.

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 15 points 3 months ago

They need to do what MacOS and Linux have done. There are safer ways to interact with and inspect the running state of the kernel in those operating systems (eBPF for Linux, a bunch of APIs I don't know much about for MacOS). Software needs a way to do the shit it's doing, you can't just turn it off and provide no alternative.

If Microsoft provides a safe API, then Wine can translate calls to that API and approximate the same degree of protection for Linux boxen.

I also agree with the other person, you should still be allowed to fuck around with the kernel on your own box. Major software vendors should be discouraged from writing shit that directly runs in ring 0, but end users should be allowed to do whatever.

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