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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (19 children)

If we were smart, we would let the cheap Chinese EVs flood the US market and drive down prices in the US using competition.

So much for the invisible hand of the market I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The reason Chinese EVs are so cheap is because China subsidizes them immensely. They're basically selling below cost, and expecting private US companies to compete with that impossible price. As long as we allow competitors from other countries in, as well as pushing for electric vehicle usage, the prices will drop. Man companies won't be able to sell gas cars after 2035 in many large states and countries. People would rather buy an older used gas car than a very expensive electric I bet.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have an ancient ICE car. Like a 2001 Honda. I bought it because it was cheap and the engine good.

But we subsidize the fossil fuel industry and have historically subsidized the auto industry. Why not do it?

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, we are with tax credits if they meet certain requirements like assembly in North America, etc.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which I don't think really any of them do yet.

But the whole situation is fucked. We should have been doing this properly 20 years ago.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

sure they do.

https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml

Bolts for example qualify and are relatively affordable.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Love my Bolt. Naturally it was discontinued :)

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Relatively affordable at twice the price and then some of the cheapest Chinese ev. But sure.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I was addressing your assertion that none qualify for tax credits, which is wrong. but if you want to compare the prices to Chinese EVs, NA EVs aren't produced in china. part of the price is developing production here in the US, which we want to do.

You also have the option of getting a used EV with a smaller tax credit, which is what I did.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Subsidize to include worker rights suppression to include the extreme of state sanctioned slavery.

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