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Hi everyone!

I need to buy a new laptop to replace my 12 years old laptop. I didn't look after hardware for a while for some personal reasons.

I will buy something new. My needs are:

  • photo editing
  • video editing
  • vector graphics editing/creation
  • good battery life (I don't want to worry about)
  • web navigating, docs, spreadsheets
  • USB-C charging would be nice

I don't game, and Framework isn't available where I live.

I would be happy to have some recommendation on what is a good hardware for this use and good brand.

Thanks!

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[–] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 4 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Please don't; tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.

The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule, and the hardware is "fine" at best. I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.

Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn't bleeding edge.

[–] throwawayish@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

tuxedo/system76/metabox/etc are all rebadged Clevo ODM designs.

Yup, clearly. /s

The support that these vendors put in for Linux is miniscule

Wow, that's a bold claim if anything. First time seeing a Pop!_OS-denier, I assume you also deny the existence of COSMIC? And these are just some of the work done done by System76 only.

the hardware is “fine” at best

Another bold claim; one which only holds true if merely Apple's finest go beyond "fine".

I for one love my desktop 3700x and 3060ti mobile stuffed into a laptop chassis. No compromises were made on this hardware.

Hmm..., very interesting! I'm totally oblivious of the existence of such a thing. If that is your benchmark, then I can actually understand what you meant with your earlier claim. Please feel free to enlighten me on how this works 😊.

Conversely, Dell and Lenovo laptops tend to have very good Linux support and can be had relatively cheaply, especially if you get something that isn’t bleeding edge.

I don't deny this. However, none of Dell's laptops with decent Linux support have an AMD CPU (or one of Intel's latest Meteor Lake CPUs). Thus, at least in terms of battery life, it's not desirable; with battery life being something that OP has explicitly mentioned. As for Lenovo, the Thinkpad-line (the one generally recommended for its Linux-support) with AMD CPUs starts at a very high price. At which point, the "fine" hardware from the Linux-first vendor not only starts to be attractive but highly desirable by comparison.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Yup, clearly. /s

That seemed nice until.... 400€ for keyboard change

WTF? 400€ to change the keyboard language?

[–] throwawayish@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So what happens is that changing the keyboard language comes together with the CPU upgrade from Intel® Core® i3-1315U to Intel® Core® i7-1360P. That's what you pay for*. I agree with you that they might have done a better job at conveying what's happening. For whatever it's worth, I didn't immediately notice this myself. Therefore I tried to contact them in hopes of resolving the issue. They responded very quickly (like within a couple of minutes) and explained what was going on. Props to them for that!

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good on them for explaining. But at that price, why even propose the option? That's a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout where it's free everywhere else.

[–] throwawayish@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s a 40% price increase just to get your keyboard layout and a CPU upgrade

Fixed that for you*.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh right, I misread your first comment sorry.

[–] throwawayish@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Np fam. In retrospect, I agree with you that I should have done a better job at making it as clear as possible ☺️.

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