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The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net count, an instance I hardly interact with.

Community Count Community Subscriber Count
beehaw.org 6 133450
hexbear.net 33 663204
lemdro.id 1 17052
lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 15907
lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 53006
lemmy.ml 14 356460
lemmy.one 1 16257
lemmy.world 39 851950
lemmynsfw.com 2 33586
sh.itjust.works 1 16006
sopuli.xyz 1 14093

The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as "suspicious")

EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month:

Community Count Community Active Month Count
awful.systems 1 2616
feddit.org 2 7363
feddit.uk 2 5289
hexbear.net 1 2952
lemdro.id 1 2898
lemm.ee 3 8898
lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 11422
lemmy.ca 3 14910
lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 13752
lemmy.ml 10 54949
lemmy.world 57 338384
lemmy.wtf 1 3602
lemmy.zip 3 12020
mander.xyz 1 11469
sh.itjust.works 5 37365
slrpnk.net 3 10897
sopuli.xyz 2 10070
ttrpg.network 1 4107

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[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago (14 children)

This highlights the problems with the Fediverse pretty well. Even decentralized systems tend towards centralization.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (13 children)

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a little centralization in your federation. It works well enough for email. The point is that you have the option, not that you have to use it.

You don't have to trade one extreme for the other. In fact, I think this is the perfect example of that. Lemmy.ml is the developers' instance, and by default would likely be the largest. Except... you know. Many, many people started there before going to other instances, especially the largest competitor.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (12 children)

The issue is that the kid that owns the ball sets the rules. LW could do something heinous, and the only choices would be to cope or lose half the Fediverse.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The thing is that the value is in the communities and not in the old content. So most likely the mods would just post we move to a new instance and a lot of users would follow. We just saw that on the German speakin lemmy instance feddit.de, which was abandoned and now most of the users and communities moved to feddit.org, which is already one of the larger ones.

What lemmy really needs is the ability to easily move accounts and communities. Mastodon has that for users already.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The lack of migration is what kept me on ml for several days after I found out what they consider ml stands for.

One click migration to a different instance would be a huge benefit to the decentralisation effort.

what they consider ml stands for

It's Mali, right? Right? Not some reference to communism?

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

The problem with this is trust. If you could seamlessly migrate like this, there's nothing to stop someone faking a long post/comment on their own instance, making them look very legitimate and then migrating that account to a trusted/legitimate instance.

Then using that for spam/selling block chain etc.

People are the reason we can't have nice things.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

Isn't that much easier nowadays with the one click settings export-import?

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

What lemmy really needs is the ability to easily move accounts and communities. Mastodon has that for users already.

Mastodon still doesn't allow to move posts and comments

Mastodon currently does not support importing posts or media due to technical limitations

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/

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