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[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 85 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (38 children)

not to mention they are half as criminally violent compared to US Citizens....about 45% less violent if they are undocumented

It has always been about racism. not crime. not drugs.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (35 children)

The crime stats are heavily skewed as undocumented persons are significantly less likely to involve the police.

Large groups of people are pretty predictable. The actual crime rates are probably much closer to the equivalent crime rates of the cities and neighborhoods that align to with their own economic status i.e class and poverty are the best predictors of crime rates, not citizenship, or lack thereof.

This isn't an argument for, or against, any immigration policy. It's an argument against using flawed statistics.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Real, scientifically backed, crime stats actually say the exact opposite of your claim. It turns out cops are racist as fuck, and are so much more likely to interact with and cause trouble for people of color whenever the opportunity presents itself that it’s not even a question. https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/05/veil-darkness-reduces-racial-bias-traffic-stops

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

What you're talking about has exactly nothing to do what's being discussed here....

Except for the possibility that the racist reputation of police in America may contribute to the reluctance of the undocumented persons to report when that they've been a victim of a crime...

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